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maginnovision:
I've been to the ER many times for my asthma but last year was my first time having 911 called. Passed out and woke up in a puddle of sweat that didn't stop growing after I woke up. Couldn't catch my breath, had no energy. I didn't know what to do but couldn't stand up so my wife had to call 911 and I got my first ambulance ride ever. Luckily this last time I was able to make it to the ER myself(well, Wife drove me). Had CT scans, MRIs, X-rays, blood tests, the best pain meds. Luckily my insurance pays for ambulance if you're admitted so total cost was nothing but premiums. I also learned to go to the medical group associated with the hospital by my house. Definitely saves time as all the specialists, the hospital and my GP share records. Unless it's something minor don't waste money on an urgent care. I only visit them for my kids ear infections and similar things.
not1xor1:

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--- Quote from: not1xor1 on April 01, 2020, 06:47:32 pm ---
--- Quote ---Austrian authorities are facing a class action lawsuit involving as many as 2,500 tourists over their handling of a coronavirus outbreak in the popular Austrian winter sports resort of Ischgl, in Tyrol province.
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https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/austria-ski-resort-ischgl-coronavirus-intl/index.html

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   That statement sounds like it came from one of our US ambulance-chasing scum-bag lawyers.  They're announcing a possible class-action lawsuit involving as many as 2500 plaintiffs but the press release never says what it is that the resort is alleged to have done wrong.

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It is my fault. I do not trust so much Italian newspapers (no longer) so made a quick search on the net, but due to haste did not read the article I linked  |O.
Italian newspapers wrote a while ago that the resort and local government knew about the COVID-19 and hid that to the tourists just to keep the cash flowing.
OK:

--- Quote ---Despite an official warning from the Icelandic government on March 4 that a group of its nationals had contracted coronavirus in Ischgl, Austrian authorities allowed ski tourism -- and the partying that goes with it -- to continue for another nine days before fully quarantining the resort on March 13. Bars in Ischgl were closed on March 10.
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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/24/europe/austria-ski-resort-ischgl-coronavirus-intl/index.html
not1xor1:
in order to realize how fast this thing gets out of control just take into account what is happening in Germany.
Such low (apparent and provisional) death rate looked so strange that lots of magazines and newspapers wrote that Italy had screwed up the statistics.

Well, in Germany just ten days ago deaths/know-cases rate was 0.38%
yesterday it had got up to 1.1%
this morning we already are at 1.2%
of course just 2 pieces of data are in no way enough to devise a trend, but if one thinks that all this depends on the fact that deaths come 1-2 weeks later after the first symptoms then one realizes that (unfortunately) that bloody rate will go up

now I wonder if those deaths figures in China are real
maginnovision:
If you search with google "China Coronavirus lies" it'd appear a lot of people question China. That is a pretty biased search term though.
Someone:

--- Quote from: Cerebus on April 02, 2020, 04:01:44 am ---
--- Quote from: Someone on April 02, 2020, 02:23:02 am ---It does appear you introduced buying full face mask respirators retail, yet failed to link them back to the dual use product classifications which separates out those which are controlled. Seems this thread is full of people who just look at things on a superficial level and equate them, when protective equipment is actually extremely nuanced and complicated.
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You've gone to surprising lengths to try and ridicule the OP who mentioned hazmat suits, gainsay me and one other poster who's called you out on hyperbole too, and you still haven't actually made your case. You have completely failed to demonstrate that hazmat suits are, in any fashion other then export control, "heavily restricted items", failed to demonstrate that there is any official "control" forbidding their sale in the normal course of business. You just keep doubling down on the same statement without actually providing any proof, yet conveniently exclude any evidence of them being on general industrial sale by just gainsaying it thus:
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Proof? Which supplier would want to risk their supply permit by either sharing its details, or selling dual use products freely risking onward supply?

But back on the original point, seems there was at least one example of a shopper who went to the effort and used substantial biological controls.
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