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Covid 19 virus
Homer J Simpson:
IHME Data UPDATE 2 April Why This is NOT like the Flu
From: https://www.youtube.com/user/blancolirio/videos
Interesting look at some data.
VK3DRB:
There are some vaccines being trialled. What is a concern is there will be less testing to get the vaccine out more quickly. There may be long term side effects we did not anticipate :scared:. Remember thalidomide.
paulca:
--- Quote from: VK3DRB on April 03, 2020, 09:35:24 am ---There are some vaccines being trialled. What is a concern is there will be less testing to get the vaccine out more quickly. There may be long term side effects we did not anticipate :scared:. Remember thalidomide.
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Yes, this could have serious repercussions in coming decades. If they rush drugs and vaccines and they end up doing wide spread harm it will vindicate the anti-vaxxers, strengthen their movement and also enflame the anti-science disease that has been spreading. Ultimately that could throw us into another dark ages.
BravoV:
Interesting statistics by countries due to Corvid19 collected by Google.
-》 https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/
Siwastaja:
Yes, even such dangerous disease (mortality rate which is likely going to be somewhere around 100x the seasonal flu if unconstrained, or maybe 10x the seasonal flu with relatively strong limiting actions (ballpark)), isn't dangerous enough to allow hastily tested, potentially very dangerous vaccine.
Vaccine testing is so damn good that people simply don't see the huge risks involved. The risks are actively minimized, which is hard and slow work. It's only due to this hard work vaccines are so safe, they inherently aren't.
Say, if the COVID was 10-20x more deadly than it is (actual mortality rate being what the CFR is right now), then that would probably warrant taking the risk with rushed vaccinations. The risk would be worth taking.
This is why we aren't going to see a vaccine in the very near future. However bad this is, it isn't bad enough to take massive risks. These risks involve things like higher mortality rate from the vaccine than from the disease itself, or serious permanent injury.
(See the Pandemrix vs. narcolepsy thing as an example case of a hastily tested vaccination; and it wasn't too bad, it was tested fairly well because of the non-severity of the swine flu.)
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