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| Siwastaja:
Something interesting is going on here. Does anyone recognize this pattern elsewhere? It seems truly odd. First, just a few days ago, the government proudly informed us that the testing capacity goes up to 3000/day (as a response to the critique that we are not testing enough). Looking at the data supplied by THL (the only official source of numbers as of now), the actual testing went down at the same time, instead, and has kept there. Likely because the official criteria to get tested haven't changed: symptoms need to be serious enough to put you in hospital care to be tested. Totally unsurprisingly, #tests correlates to #positives, so it "seems" the epidemic is now under control because the number of new cases per day has also dropped and stayed there. (See attachment) (Of course, at the same time, the epidemic is better under control because it seems most of the people have taken this quite seriously and following common sense. This doesn't explain the odd data, though.) Another weird thing I'm looking at are mortality numbers. From the beginning until a few days ago, both the # of cases and # of deaths were collected from the hospitals by the largest newspaper, Helsingin Sanomat, and published as open dataset (visualized e.g. by https://korona.kans.io/ ). A few days ago, THL, the authority, started collecting and publishing the numbers, so Helsingin Sanomat stopped producing the data due to it becoming "unnecessary". The interesting caveat here is that the THL dataset does not record the deaths at all - so it seems to me, there is no reliable source of data for deaths currently. I hope to be proved wrong. Oddly, unlike elsewhere in the world, the death rate hasn't followed the number of positive cases as seen approx. two weeks earlier. It has been an interesting step function and remained almost constant 2 deaths/day since 2020-03-25. As an only exception, one day we had zero deaths, and the next day we had four. The cumulative death toll has followed the pattern 1,3,5,7,9,11,13,13,17,19,21 (earlier today), and suddenly went back to 20 as of later today. This data is from the local news sources. Today one particular local authority reported three supposedly new deaths in an elderly care facility, but since no one is now in response of counting the total, no one knows whether these are included in the earlier numbers (not being new after all) or not. Not saying it's a conspiracy or coverup, but this pattern just seems so weird I want to hear your input on it. I'm suspecting there is something more to this. Of course, if the shit really hits the fan here like it did in Sweden already, there's no way deaths can be covered up. But a few dozen might go easily unnoticed, especially given the knowingly problematic service quality in elderly care (a subject of a lot of critical political discussion just before the pandemic hit), where deaths due to neglicence have been reported before. (It would be especially interesting to hear Nominal Animal's input on this.) |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: Siwastaja on April 03, 2020, 05:46:36 pm ---Today one particular local authority reported three supposedly new deaths in an elderly care facility, but since no one is now in response of counting the total, no one knows whether these are included in the earlier numbers (not being new after all) or not. --- End quote --- The Dutch bureau for statistics is registering a much larger (abnormal) spike in deaths compared to people officially dying from Corona. |
| paulca:
Can we agree that if Trump promotes a drug or vaccine as to showing "he did a good job" and "he is fucking great at everything, wait and see"... he tries it on himself first. ? |
| bd139:
--- Quote from: paulca on April 03, 2020, 05:51:12 pm ---Can we agree that if Trump promotes a drug or vaccine as to showing "he did a good job" and "he is fucking great at everything, wait and see"... he tries it on himself first. ? --- End quote --- Hopefully he can check efficacy of sodium thiopental first. |
| vad:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/us/politics/cia-coronavirus-china.html Predictive epidemiological models based on data from China are garbage. People’s Republic has been manipulating its Covid-19 statistics. |
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