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2N3055:

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--- Quote from: bd139 on April 03, 2020, 05:06:31 pm ---They’re working on it here. Not much point until you have antibody testing in place though. As for fakes I imagine they will be verifiable in some way. Possibly to present with ID.

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In Croatia  they have central registry. All that are confirmed cases, and those in self isolation are known. If they catch those in self isolation, they get escorted home and fined... Those with confirmed infection are in quarantine. They verify it in real time...
Travel permits are issued online, directly in registry... So no fakes..

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That's worryingly difficult to differentiate from a police state. Understandable at the moment, but it does give one pause for thought.

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UK has WHOLE country covered with 10s of millions of cameras. We are all living in full blown police states that are currently not abusing it on large scale..

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That political chip on your shoulder is preventing you from reading my comment as what it was, a neutral statement, into some imagined attack on your state and implicit support for my state, which it wasn't.

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I don't have political chip on my shoulder, bu you might have, being sensitive to my comment. I wasn't counterattacking but merely stated that we all live in countries that have all infrastructure (technical, military, police, intelligence services) of a full blown Orwellian state. It is just that our countries usually don't abuse it...  That is actually great. They choose to do the right thing..

Simon:

--- Quote from: Cerebus on April 03, 2020, 06:11:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on April 03, 2020, 05:21:19 pm ---
--- Quote from: bd139 on April 03, 2020, 05:06:31 pm ---They’re working on it here. Not much point until you have antibody testing in place though. As for fakes I imagine they will be verifiable in some way. Possibly to present with ID.

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In Croatia  they have central registry. All that are confirmed cases, and those in self isolation are known. If they catch those in self isolation, they get escorted home and fined... Those with confirmed infection are in quarantine. They verify it in real time...
Travel permits are issued online, directly in registry... So no fakes..

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That's worryingly difficult to differentiate from a police state. Understandable at the moment, but it does give one pause for thought.

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stupid people need stupid measures. If it's not too much to ask I'd rather have a bed in a hospital if I were to get this despite all precautions I am taking and not have it taken away from me by the multitudes of pricks that think they know better. The problem is that the vast majority of the population do not have the intellect to grasp that the figures we see today were set in motion 1-2 weeks ago and that if today it's a bit shit then in 2 weeks we will properly screwed!

not1xor1:

--- Quote from: VK3DRB on April 03, 2020, 09:35:24 am ---There are some vaccines being trialled. What is a concern is there will be less testing to get the vaccine out more quickly. There may be long term side effects we did not anticipate :scared:. Remember thalidomide.

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Are you legend ?  ;D

paulca:

--- Quote from: Simon on April 03, 2020, 07:13:31 pm ---
--- Quote from: paulca on April 03, 2020, 07:07:08 pm ---In other more important news.  The logarithmic graphs are showing a downward deflection.  Inflection point?

... or lack of tests?

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Not really, it almost looks like a testing/reporting bottleneck. We stay the same for 3 days then jump.... again. Bearing in mind that the definition of someone who has it in the UK seems to be that it's so bad that they end up in hospital. The people that just feel a bit off and could have been infectious for up to 2 weeks are told to stay home and not inform anyone of their condition. It's almost like they don't what to know the real numbers and are hoping to be able to report less to justify their suicidal approach at the start.

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All of the logarithmics on JH are showing downward deflection globally over a 1-2 week period.  Obviously this means we are only fucked slightly less quickly, but mathematically a good candidate for an inflection point.

Cerebus:

--- Quote from: 2N3055 on April 03, 2020, 07:13:44 pm ---
--- Quote from: Cerebus on April 03, 2020, 06:47:21 pm ---
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on April 03, 2020, 06:38:44 pm ---
UK has WHOLE country covered with 10s of millions of cameras. We are all living in full blown police states that are currently not abusing it on large scale..

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That political chip on your shoulder is preventing you from reading my comment as what it was, a neutral statement, into some imagined attack on your state and implicit support for my state, which it wasn't.

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I don't have political chip on my shoulder, bu you might have, being sensitive to my comment. I wasn't counterattacking but merely stated that we all live in countries that have all infrastructure (technical, military, police, intelligence services) of a full blown Orwellian state. It is just that our countries usually don't abuse it...  That is actually great. They choose to do the right thing..

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I think it was a reasonable assumption on my behalf given you started "UK...".


--- Quote from: 2N3055 on April 03, 2020, 07:13:44 pm ---I wasn't counterattacking but merely stated that we all live in ...

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Except you didn't "merely state..." i.e. state without any extraneous remarks. If you had I wouldn't have taken it as I did. If you don't want people to take what you say as nationalistic, the best approach would be to not prefix it with a remark that prima facia appears to be nationalistic.

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