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donotdespisethesnake:

--- Quote from: 0xdeadbeef on February 28, 2020, 10:07:24 am ---You guys really know how to turn a calm and rational statement into something coldhearted and misanthropic. Please try to read whole sentences or even paragraphs before trying to blame other people of a horrible attitude.

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Well, you said "it's nothing to worry about, and anyway mostly old and sick people will die". Neither statements is factual. Since no one has a crystal ball, the rational statement is "we don't know how bad it will get".

If you said "I'm not worried about it", that would be a valid opinion. But you tried to dress it up as "you should not be worried because <made up reasons>". Not rational at all.
0xdeadbeef:

--- Quote from: donotdespisethesnake on February 28, 2020, 10:30:01 am ---Well, you said "it's nothing to worry about, and anyway mostly old and sick people will die". Neither statements is factual. Since no one has a crystal ball, the rational statement is "we don't know how bad it will get".

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No, that's not what I said. That's what you decided to read into it. Which says a lot about your perception of yourself and other people but nothing about what you falsely quoted.
donotdespisethesnake:

--- Quote from: 0xdeadbeef on February 28, 2020, 11:30:32 am ---
--- Quote from: donotdespisethesnake on February 28, 2020, 10:30:01 am ---Well, you said "it's nothing to worry about, and anyway mostly old and sick people will die". Neither statements is factual. Since no one has a crystal ball, the rational statement is "we don't know how bad it will get".

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No, that's not what I said. That's what you decided to read into it. Which says a lot about your perception of yourself and other people but nothing about what you falsely quoted.

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If you really think that is not what you said, you really need to be a lot more careful about how you write things. But no need to get your panties in a bunch, it's not the apocalypse, right?

Anyway, at least you agree it is something serious which needs people's attention, and will affect people of all ages.
0xdeadbeef:

--- Quote from: donotdespisethesnake on February 28, 2020, 01:01:41 pm ---If you really think that is not what you said, you really need to be a lot more careful about how you write things.

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Well, I simply didn't say would you apparently like to think I did. After all you felt the need to forge the quote just to be sure. It's quite obvious how you interpreted the worst by reading only a part here and a part there and filling the gaps with your worst expectations. It's probably easy to feel righteous and be angry about others at the same time with this approach. Not my cup of tea though, so please don't put words in my mouth.


--- Quote from: donotdespisethesnake on February 28, 2020, 01:01:41 pm ---But no need to get your panties in a bunch, it's not the apocalypse, right?

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Sorry, I kinda mistook this for a serious discussion. Guess I was wrong. So I'm outta here and leave this to the prophets of the apocalypse.
Nominal Animal:
For what it is worth (less than two cents, really), here's my opinion:

* No reason to panic.  Coronaviruses cause flu-like symptoms, and the main reason it is more dangerous than influenza viruses is that it is harder on the kidneys.
* We ordinary people should adopt behavioural patterns that discourage the spread of viruses, influenza and coronaviruses in particular, as our current behavioural patterns lead to rather dangerous pandemics every couple of decades.
* The proper time to react is when the first signs of possible pandemic are seen.   At the point where lots of people are showing symptoms already, the infection has already spread, and can only really be endured, not prevented anymore.
* The proper early reaction is quarantine.  Stop unnecessary travel (holiday travels and such), and quarantine the hotspots.  If it means throwing people who ignore the rules into jail, so be it.  Better alive in jail than risking the lives of who knows many others.
* Quarantine to stop pandemics should be seen as a good, positive thing.  We should think of ways of providing food and water to people who have quarantined themselves voluntarily, and see that kind of action as commendable (in the early stages of infection spreading especially).  Think of help after a natural catastrophe, except this time the help helps everyone, not just those suffering.  It is courageous and considerate.
* Being sick, coughing (especially coughing towards someone else, or into your hand, instead of your elbow), and spitting, should be treated as worse than yelling racial slurs, even outside pandemics.  Traveling while possibly infected should be a cultural no-no; something people are taught at school to not do, even shown what happens when people ignore that and think "well I'm not sick, I can go home" and spead the illness to their friends and loved ones.
* Media and celebrities should show an example, and politicians should be encouraging self-imposed quarantine and travel restrictions, and bring forth epidemiologists and doctors' suggestions and reports on how much that would help.  If sufficient cultural movement gets going, it will be possible for politicians to set up laws and procedures, to prepare for the next time.
* The next time will come.  And the next.  We cannot eradicate viruses.  Attempting to do so, or pre-medicating and over-medicating people, just leads to superbugs that ignore even our most powerful medicine.  The medical community concentrates on vaccines and antivirals that can combat these viruses (but note that we only have vaccinations for the three main types of influenza virus, and no antivirals that help combat an existing infection), so it is up to the rest of the humanity to work out how to behave in ways that reduces the spread of these viruses.
* I think most humans are too stupid to work this out, until a pandemic that actually kills a major fraction of humans on this planet comes along.  We just do not seem to be able to look at history, see what actions lead to, and avoid those disastrous actions.
* Even if nothing is done, you are more likely to die from cancer than from an influenza or coronavirus infection.
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