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mrflibble:

--- Quote from: nctnico on March 15, 2020, 06:46:33 pm ---The NL goes into lockdown for the next 3 weeks. This causes long lines with people who want to get some weed while they still can:


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ROFL! Classic! ;D

rgarito:
Well, it's official.  Spring Break is DONE...

They have closed almost all of Ft Lauderdale beach (about a 5-6 mile long stretch--the main part).  The beaches have been absolutely PACKED until now.  This is where a huge portion of the 10's of thousands of spring breaker college students come over From March - the end of April.  Beach is closed till April 12.  Bars have a curfew of 10pm and must limit their capacity by 50%.  (it's about time)  THIS is gonna get interesting.

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/03/15/watch-live-miami-beach-fort-lauderdale-officials-discuss-spring-break-crowds-and-covid-19-outbreak/

metrologist:
too little too late.

This video get more interesting later on...


Cerebus:

--- Quote from: mrflibble on March 15, 2020, 07:18:56 pm ---The one thing that does puzzle me a tiny wee bit is:


--- Quote from: Cerebus on March 15, 2020, 02:18:40 pm ---If that folk remedy were to damp down the inflammatory response, if, then it would be exactly the wrong things to do. The inflammatory response is exactly evidence that your immune system is responding as it is supposed to.

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This is indeed true. Unfortunately what is also true is that too much inflammation, is well, too much. I believe the phrase we're looking for here is "fatal inflammatory response". It's a common theme in entirely too many pathologies... So maybe I don't understand you correctly?  :-// To keep it within the current context, read for example this one:

https://www.virosin.org/fileZGBDX/journal/article/vs/newcreate/0216.pdf

Anyways, thanks for the sanity check. :-+

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I think what you're thinking of is a "cytokine storm". Firstly, there have been no reports of this kind of event being systematically associated with SARS-Covid-2 (Covid-19) like it was with SARS-Covid (SARS) - where it was the mechanism of death for many young otherwise healthy people who contracted SARS. Secondly, by the time you have reached the point where your immune systems have overreacted so much that they are (no exaggeration) tearing your body apart in a cytokine storm you are so unwell that you'll be in ICU or on your way there. Treatment for this is rapid dosing with immunosuppressant drugs (such as large doses of systemic corticosteroids) which is a two edged sword - yes, the immunosuppression does limit the damage being caused to the body by its own immune system, but it also damps down the bodies efforts to kill the virus responsible for the problem in the first place. By the time you get to this point you are very lucky if the treatment is successful and you survive. For the treatment to succeed it must balance on the knife edge of damping response enough to minimise harm, while still permitting enough response to still fight the disease.

To be clear, all non-specific immune responses involve inflammation as part and parcel of the immune response. Anybody who has had a cut or insect bite get red and swollen has experienced this. The inflammation is one of the indications that your immune system has gone to work. It is the result of all sorts of immune cells moving to the site of 'insult', attracted there by cytokines being released at that site (cytokine - cyto = cell, kine = mover - a class of signalling hormones). Cytokine storms are where the immune signalling has gone into overdrive and the cells recruited by one kind of cytokine themselves release other cytokines and a positive feedback loop develops and the system becomes unstable. The resident denizens will recognise this as one of the body's control loops falling out of control by operating under circumstances that the control loop's 'designer's' compensation scheme didn't account for.

edy:

--- Quote from: rgarito on March 15, 2020, 07:41:08 pm ---Well, it's official.  Spring Break is DONE...

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Just in... breaking news, unsurprisingly the rate of STD's and alcohol poisoning has dwindled while demand for online adult  and video chat sites subscriptions have skyrocketed!  :-DD

https://www.inertiatours.com/when-is-spring-break-2020/

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