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thinkfat:

--- Quote from: GlennSprigg on March 17, 2020, 01:12:12 pm ---MY MAIN reason for commenting here though, is that I'm sure I've missed a lot of points in the last 17 pages, but WHY was/is Italy hit so hard???  It seems disproportionate regarding the vast number of deaths there, compared to the rest of the world??  Were they totally UN-prepared, didn't take it serious, didn't have the resources???  I don't understand!!

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As far as I understand, Italy was taken by surprise. There were no tests in the beginning at all and they noticed the spread only from testing people who died of pneumonia, because they saw the number spiking.
paulca:
Okay, -gb-, let me just take the advice of someone on the internet and ignore all the official information.  Yea.  :palm:

I'll just go and join a few Facebook groups for extra advice and see if "Karen on facebook" knows better too.

As I said, the only way to slow it is to act as if you already have it.  Unless being around other people is ABSOLUTELY essential it should be avoided.  If you are around other people, wash your hands often.  If you want to make a home made mask, knock yourself out.
paulca:

--- Quote from: thinkfat on March 17, 2020, 01:23:49 pm ---
--- Quote from: GlennSprigg on March 17, 2020, 01:12:12 pm ---MY MAIN reason for commenting here though, is that I'm sure I've missed a lot of points in the last 17 pages, but WHY was/is Italy hit so hard???  It seems disproportionate regarding the vast number of deaths there, compared to the rest of the world??  Were they totally UN-prepared, didn't take it serious, didn't have the resources???  I don't understand!!

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As far as I understand, Italy was taken by surprise. There were no tests in the beginning at all and they noticed the spread only from testing people who died of pneumonia, because they saw the number spiking.

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They also, apparently, have the oldest population in Europe.  The triaging of patients was no managed well, the hospitals over flowed and people who needed care could not get it.
nctnico:

--- Quote from: -gb- on March 17, 2020, 01:16:08 pm ---
--- Quote ---If you have the virus or symptoms mask or not stay the fuck home and away from others.  It's not rocket science.
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It seems you don't understand.

Corona has a very long incubation time and even after this incubation time many people with corona don't feel ill. So there are many people who don't knot that they are transmitting the virus because they CAN'T know.

The ill corona pations are not transmitting because they stay at home or are in hospital. It is EXACTLY the people who feel fine but are infected who are transmitting the virus.

The sould wear masks of course and to archive that, EVERYONE has to wear a mask. ever if it is selfbuilt. Because if everyone wears the mask, then automatically everyone who is feeling goot but is actually infected would also wear the mask.

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It is not going to help. The virus is already lingering in too many people. Even if the virus is blocked right now it will pop-up later on. The Corona virus is going to become seasonal flu. The only way out is to slow down the spread to a pace where the health services can keep up and develop a vaccine for old and weak people.
Bud:

--- Quote from: VK3DRB on March 17, 2020, 10:12:00 am --- Another effective method might be to post on forum a photo of the face of their hoarders with their trolley of loot.

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Yes yes I got one !

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