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| Cerebus:
--- Quote from: nctnico on March 18, 2020, 12:36:23 am ---Regarding elections: I'd say it is likely that these will be postponed. Not just in the US but everywhere in the world. You can't have a change of government in a crisis this large. Even if it is possible to organise a vote then whatever candidates say or promise will be lost in the noise from the Corona virus. --- End quote --- Several pending elections in the UK have been put on hold for the duration. As far as the US presidential elections I think the situation is a bit more problematic. There will be people who remember Trump making noises and asking questions near the beginning of his presidency about quasi-legal ways to extend his term and about circumstances where he could just declare himself to continue to be president. Any other time, with any other president, and I don't think the body politic would have any issue with the idea that postponing elections was a sensible step. With Trump and his machinations I think he's built a level of distrust that might make it difficult, maybe impossible, to postpone the US elections. A cynic would say that if looks like he might lose he'll postpone, if looks like he might win he'll want the elections to happen on schedule*. *I'd apply that cynicism to any modern politician, not just Trump. |
| Stray Electron:
--- Quote from: nctnico on March 18, 2020, 12:36:23 am --- Regarding elections: I'd say it is likely that these will be postponed. Not just in the US but everywhere in the world. You can't have a change of government in a crisis this large. Even if it is possible to organise a vote then whatever candidates say or promise will be lost in the noise from the Corona virus. --- End quote --- FWIW, I seriously doubt that the election in the US will be delayed under any circumstances. I'm sure that even in Europe you've seen the hatred and bitterness and the numerous false accusations and even an attempted impeachment that had been directed at Donald Trump and many others in his administration. ANY attempt to delay the elections will be seen by his enemies as an attempt to seize power and there's no telling where that will lead. OTOH It's past time that the US implemented a modern secure voting system that wouldn't require everyone to show up in person. The banks and other businesses have secure online and telephone systems, it's about time that our voting system was as secure as those systems. We do have a process for mail-in voting. I expect that they will resort to that system for this election but you can be sure that some group will shout and scream that mail-in voting is unaffordable and racist and that it will disenfranchise them. |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: Bud on March 17, 2020, 01:40:39 pm --- --- Quote from: VK3DRB on March 17, 2020, 10:12:00 am --- Another effective method might be to post on forum a photo of the face of their hoarders with their trolley of loot. --- End quote --- Yes yes I got one ! --- End quote --- Maybe sign language helps: |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: Stray Electron on March 18, 2020, 01:14:05 am --- --- Quote from: nctnico on March 18, 2020, 12:36:23 am --- Regarding elections: I'd say it is likely that these will be postponed. Not just in the US but everywhere in the world. You can't have a change of government in a crisis this large. Even if it is possible to organise a vote then whatever candidates say or promise will be lost in the noise from the Corona virus. --- End quote --- FWIW, I seriously doubt that the election in the US will be delayed under any circumstances. I'm sure that even in Europe you've seen the hatred and bitterness and the numerous false accusations and even an attempted impeachment that had been directed at Donald Trump and many others in his administration. --- End quote --- That is a problem but I think many will see it as a test of political leadership for everyone involved. It would be political suicide to hold the US government hostage over who is to be the president during a crisis this severe. In the grand scheme of things it isn't important who is president. --- Quote --- ANY attempt to delay the elections will be seen by his enemies as an attempt to seize power and there's no telling where that will lead. OTOH It's past time that the US implemented a modern secure voting system that wouldn't require everyone to show up in person. The banks and other businesses have secure online and telephone systems, it's about time that our voting system was as secure as those systems. We do have a process for mail-in voting. I expect that they will resort to that system for this election but you can be sure that some group will shout and scream that mail-in voting is unaffordable and racist and that it will disenfranchise them. --- End quote --- Actually the banking systems aren't secure at all. World wide banks get robbed from billions of euros/dollars every year due to digital fraud. To the banks this is just cost of doing business. |
| whalphen:
This helps explain the actions taken by government leaders in the last few days. Brace for impact! https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf |
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