General > General Technical Chat
Covid 19 virus
<< < (124/381) > >>
Sredni:

--- Quote from: james_s on March 19, 2020, 12:03:37 am ---
Yes I'm familiar with this, but why are we so lax about the flu when it kills so many thousands so predictably every year?


--- End quote ---

10 thousand are nothing compared to the damage Covid-19 can cause.
You are comparing the maximum current of a small signal diode with the maximum current of a power diode.


--- Quote ---And why are people in such a panic about Covid? Most of us will get it at some point, most of us will survive, a few will not, mostly the old and/or weak, mother nature is a cruel mistress.

--- End quote ---

It's not panic, it's awareness of the risks necessary to mitigate the deadly outcome.
Do the math, and compute after how many days your country will run out of hospital beds.
The flu is a joke in comparison.
And yes, the flu is scaringly deadly. But by comparison this is far worse.

I mean, have any of you guys seen what is happening in Italy? The hospital overwhelmed? The cemeteries overwhelmed? Do you think it's even slightly comparable to the flu?
People who think it's not that different from the flu is the cause of the unnecessary spread. And that unnecessary spread is the cause of the hospitals being overwhelmed.
And that leads to unnecessary deaths.

And the problem is that I called bullshit a bullshit?



It's like watching frogs being slowly boiled.




Hey Dave, it's still too soon for that image?
nctnico:

--- Quote from: james_s on March 19, 2020, 12:03:37 am ---Yes I'm familiar with this, but why are we so lax about the flu when it kills so many thousands so predictably every year?

--- End quote ---
Covid19 is likely to kill a lot more. First because of the higher mortality rate and secondly due to the severeness of the symptoms. Look at the UK numbers Cerebus posted. Likely none of the people over 50 will have an ICU bed available and will die if they need one. Do the math. In these age groups alone and you are getting into the hundreds of thousands of people easely. And nobody is lax about flu. Older people tend to get flu shots which do help.
Bud:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 19, 2020, 12:10:10 am ---The long story short is that people need to calm the fuck down, stop endlessly rewatching and rehashing the same shit and take some sensible precautions. Maybe turn off the tv for a bit and do some sowing.

--- End quote ---
How about assholes  stop visiting this thread if they have nothing to say.
Cerebus:
Based on figures here: 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season: Preliminary Burden Estimates

The estimated case fatality ratio (all ages) for seasonal influenza in the USA in this year's flu season is between 0.04% and 0.15%. The estimated age weighted case fatality ratio for SARS-Covid-2 based on the Imperial College data is 1.23%. That's a 6.2 to 30.7 times higher case fatality ratio for SARS-Covid-2 than for this year's seasonal flu.

Given that there is no pre-existing community immunity to SARS-Covid-2 whereas there is for flu the absolute number of cases is going to be higher than for flu, for which the CDC estimate there where between 36 - 51 million cases this year (crudely 10 - 20% of the population). If SARS-Covid-2 was responsible for only as few cases of infection as flu has been in the US this year there would be between 442,800 - 627,300 Covid related deaths (compared to the estimate for flu this year of 22,000 - 55,000 deaths).

So anybody who still thinks this is only as bad as flu, and that unnecessary fuss is being made, think again.
Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: nctnico on March 19, 2020, 12:26:43 am ---Covid19 is likely to kill a lot more. First because of the higher mortality rate and secondly due to the severeness of the symptoms. Look at the UK numbers Cerebus posted. Likely none of the people over 50 will have an ICU bed available and will die if they need one. Do the math. In these age groups alone and you are getting into the hundreds of thousands of people easely. And nobody is lax about flu. Older people tend to get flu shots which do help.

--- End quote ---
The UK numbers are estimates and projections, not actual numbers. The issue is we don't have great numbers right now so we need to do some worst case guesstimating.
Navigation
Message Index
Next page
Previous page
There was an error while thanking
Thanking...

Go to full version
Powered by SMFPacks Advanced Attachments Uploader Mod