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| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: Sredni on March 19, 2020, 03:27:27 am ---Telling someone his house is on fire is not panicking. You need to see what is going on? Don't you have Internet access? The data is public. What do you expect, to be held by hand, report after report, paper after paper? As I said, you will see for yourself. --- End quote --- Considering you flat out refuse to post anything else than "see for yourself" I can't help but conclude you don't actually know what's going on. I understand that the changes and incessant torrents of news are scary. Looking carefully at what we actually know can make it less scary. Admittedly the idea of yelling there's a fire and subsequently refusing to comment on what's on fire and where is amusing because of how absurd it is. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: Sredni on March 19, 2020, 03:27:27 am --- --- Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 19, 2020, 03:05:56 am ---Please avoid the false dilemma where people who aren't joining your panic are supposedly of the opinion this situation is made up. No one is saying nothing is going on. However, you keep using rousing and alarmist language --- End quote --- Telling someone his house is on fire is not panicking. You need to see what is going on? Don't you have Internet access? The data is public. What do you expect, to be held by hand, report after report, paper after paper? As I said, you will see for yourself. --- End quote --- You're not informing someone that their house is on fire, you're running around in circles screaming that the sky is falling and accusing anyone who refuses to get caught up in your panic of thinking there's no problem at all. What precisely are you advocating beyond that everyone should be afraid? How long should we keep everything shut down? What is an acceptable number of people to force out of their livelihood depriving them of food, shelter and medicine in order to try to slow the spread? What do we do if this is still going around 6 months from now or when it flares up again while we are still reeling from the impact of the initial panic? This reminds me too much of my partner's mother. She is absolutely useless in an emergency, she panics and freezes up, becomes completely incapable of acting in any useful way and makes whatever situation much worse by getting in the way and distracting everyone else into dealing with her instead of doing something useful. Panic is never helpful, it fixes nothing, it stirs everybody up into a helpless frenzy and prevents rational thought. Panic is going to make a bad situation far, far more dire. |
| vodka:
They leave to die. https://youtu.be/7z-_v1H23Qo Brief trancription. We have order of our superiors.To leave to die elder people because we haven't sufficient respirators. But after in TV, they said that have to protect elder people(Hospital "Puerta de Hierro",Madrid 18/03/2020) |
| bsfeechannel:
--- Quote from: james_s on March 19, 2020, 03:53:33 am ---How long should we keep everything shut down? --- End quote --- Long enough not to overcrowd the ICUs. --- Quote --- What is an acceptable number of people to force out of their livelihood depriving them of food, shelter and medicine in order to try to slow the spread? --- End quote --- Shut the eff down. Don't waste your time discussing. --- Quote ---Panic is going to make a bad situation far, far more dire. --- End quote --- The mortality rate in South Korea is 0.97%, while in Italy is 7.94%. It seems that "panicking" is the right approach. |
| VK3DRB:
If you, dear foreigner, want to visit Australia soon you now have no hope according to this boofhead... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-19/coronavirus-non-resident-travel-ban-australia/12071640 The Australian govt is in now panic mode. Ad-hoc announcements and no planning. The Home Affairs website is overloaded. This shock announcement means Chinese students who are not residents won't be coming here to return to their studies in the foreseeable future. People with visas to get married within a certain time frame may never be allowed in this country and they won't get their $6K visa fees back (I know someone in that predicament). It is illegal to congregate with more than 100 people in this state, and yet the huge casino is exempt. It is a complete debacle. |
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