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VK3DRB:
A friend who is trying to get his fiancee here from China for the past 3 years has had to fork out $40,000 so far due to the Australian government incompetence and this corona virus. That is another story in itself. My friend recently contacted senior immigration officials and they don't even know what is going on. Apparently the government immigration androids have just cancelled 30 partner visas (including my friend's) due to government bureaucratic incompetence and total lack of empathy. None of the partners had the virus and all were in quarantine elsewhere. Therefore, the victims have to go through the whole :bullshit: process again in getting a visa which will take another few years, and no doubt have to hand over another $6K for another application fee - and that is after the sanctions are lifted. It is shameful the way my friend and his partner have been treated by the Australian federal government.

Zero999:
Going by historical reports, this isn't as bad as Spanish flu, which was far more deadly. I imagine if this happened 30 or so years ago, there would be loads of old people saying they've seen worse and it's bonkers. One of the reasons the Spanish flu had a greater impact might have been the population was in generally worse health, as it came after the war, so we can't compare it to that.

At first I thought this is all crazy and the world has gone mad, but now I think this might be all necessary. We don't know as much about covid, as we do about common flu. It seems to have a higher death rate and is just as contagious. I'm not worried about my own health, because I'm sure I'll survive it, but my parent's are in their 70s. My mum, has had two stokes in the past, is in recovery from surgery on a brain haemorrhage and my day has asthma and a colostomy bag, so it could be very serious for them. Another issue is this could affect the following generation. Children born to mothers with Spanish flu or who caught it when they were very young tended to do poorer in school. We don't want to risk have increased levels of learning disability in the future, so it's better to be overcautious, than do nothing at all.

I think culture and upbringing could also be factors. I'm currently off work because I have a cough, which normally wouldn't bother me. I've been told throughout my life not to be a wimp and call in sick because I'm mildly unwell. When I was at school I won various awards for attendance. I went for four years without being late or off sick and won a crappy prize for it: some book vouchers which I never used.

People are helping one another out. I went out in the front garden this morning to bury some food waste (strongly recommended, if you have a garden: if you don't have room for a compost heap, just bury it in the border). My neighbour stuck her head out of the door and said "I notice you have a bad cough" I said "Yes, that's why I'm off work, keep away from me!" and she said "Well if you need any shopping done for you, don't hesitate to ask" I said "Thanks". It did make me feel happy, but probably won't take her up on her offer as my parents will go shopping on Saturday and I'll ask them to pick up a few things for me. Obviously, I'll ask them to drop them off outside the house and I'll give them the money through the letterbox, to minimise contact.

iMo:
Another Lesson Learned from this situation is the US and EU should return production of some materials, chemicals, equipment and other important goods back to US and EU.

It has no sense to have production sites in Far East just because the production costs are ie. 4x lower, and when really needed you have to pay 50x more for it, moreover, you cannot get in time and in the amounts required.

Every government at least in EU is complaining today "we don't have this and that handy as it is produced in Far East and to get something off there is difficult, or, it costs you an arm and leg today".

These kind of pandemics will repeat much more often in the future with a similar scenario, so we have to be able to produce the stuff at home.

Zucca:
Before this thread will be locked for obvious reasons, this is my last post here.

Just stay home as much as you can and avoid contact with others persons.

I am done. Good luck you all!

flyte:

--- Quote from: Zucca on March 19, 2020, 12:29:38 pm ---Just stay home as much as you can and avoid contact with others persons.

--- End quote ---

Couldn't agree more, it is the only effective solution for now. Not to protect just yourself, it's mainly to protect others. Now let's hope people really get this.

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