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iMo:

--- Quote from: rgarito on March 19, 2020, 06:45:47 pm ---..
I South Florida, the most popular Spring Break beaches were closed on Sunday.  So what did the damn kids do?  They all moved over to the west (Gulf) coast of Florida and moved the party there....  (it's about a 90 mile drive away)  SMH.  These damn kids just refuse to "get it."  Not sure if they finally decided to close those beaches, too.

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Why do kids feel immortal:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-brain-food/201008/why-do-teenagers-feel-immortal

Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: james_s on March 19, 2020, 06:52:54 pm ---I read yesterday that there is a problem now with people pulling their money out of banks but I don't know how widespread it is. Don't underestimate the levels of irrational behavior that can be caused by panic, it spreads like a virus itself and leads to all kinds of crazy things and self-fulfilling prophecies. It's a basic human trait, I mean people get killed in stampedes to get cheap discounted junk in stores on black friday sales. Nobody is going to say it's rational to stampede and kill someone over a waffle maker but it happens.

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This is one of those rumours we should be careful with. Relaying it can spread irrational fears quickly. It also a stupid thing to do as no one will touch your cash money. I happened to have a larger amount than usual in my wallet and I can't spend it!

Nominal Animal:

--- Quote from: james_s on March 19, 2020, 06:56:17 pm ---I'm skeptical of the efficacy of testing. Say you get tested, then on the way out of the clinic or on your way home you pick up the virus. A day or so later, however long the test results take you are notified that you are negative so you go out and interact with others except you are not actually negative because you picked up the virus after being tested and now you have a false sense of security from the negative test. Perhaps I'm overlooking something though.
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In Finland, the problem is that lack of testing hides the problem.

The same kind of problem occurred over a decade ago, when certain older lady politicians get fed up with street prostitution.  Certain laws were put in place, and now there is very little street prostitution in Helsinki.  What you do have, however, is lots more human trafficing, especially for prostitution; slavery and so on.
But, since it is hidden, and not in-your-face, these older lady politicians are happy and not annoyed anymore, so they consider it a very good win.

See?  It is not to help people feel safe, but to realize they are not; that they can be virus spreaders even if they feel perfectly healthy.

It is a completely different thing for even a respected doctor to say that although Finland is supposed to only have 400 cases, the true number is likely an order of magnitude higher, and actually having those bigger numbers from testing, when the problem is that most people don't think the situation is serious enough for them to behave any different.

coppice:

--- Quote from: imo on March 19, 2020, 06:57:08 pm ---
--- Quote from: rgarito on March 19, 2020, 06:45:47 pm ---..
I South Florida, the most popular Spring Break beaches were closed on Sunday.  So what did the damn kids do?  They all moved over to the west (Gulf) coast of Florida and moved the party there....  (it's about a 90 mile drive away)  SMH.  These damn kids just refuse to "get it."  Not sure if they finally decided to close those beaches, too.

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Why do kids feel immortal:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-brain-food/201008/why-do-teenagers-feel-immortal

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I think it must be a bit more complex than that. Some people are pretty careless in their youth, but many of us grow up with a deep sense of our own vulnerability.

Wimberleytech:

--- Quote from: james_s on March 19, 2020, 06:52:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: edavid on March 19, 2020, 06:49:30 pm ---That makes no sense to me.  You see barter when the central banks aren't trusted, or when there's high inflation.  There's no sign of either of those happening.

Around here people don't even want to make cash transactions, let alone bartering.  Too much personal contact.

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I read yesterday that there is a problem now with people pulling their money out of banks but I don't know how widespread it is. Don't underestimate the levels of irrational behavior that can be caused by panic, it spreads like a virus itself and leads to all kinds of crazy things and self-fulfilling prophecies. It's a basic human trait, I mean people get killed in stampedes to get cheap discounted junk in stores on black friday sales. Nobody is going to say it's rational to stampede and kill someone over a waffle maker but it happens.

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I live in a small rural town in Texas (near a high-tech metropolis).  People are acting reasonably sane.  Yeah, some items at the store are cleaned out, but when you go to an establishment you do not sense any panic.

I am still trying to get my head around this meltdown.  Was an unbeliever at first.  Trying to come around to believing this is as big of a threat as advertised, but it is hard...just looking at the numbers.  The spreading factor of covid19 appears to be pretty much in line with the flu.  The mortality appears to tilt heavily to the older population (like me!!) but even then it seems to be those with underlying conditions.  Mortality rate...we need more data.

I have looked at the data for the Princess Cruise ship.  Only 1% of the infected died.  Not everybody on the ship got infected.  That is certainly more than the common flu would have caused but it is not crazy big.

It is an election year here in the US.  I suspect that fact causes some unnatural behavior.

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