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not1xor1:

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--- Quote from: engrguy42 on March 19, 2020, 10:41:57 pm --- -- and environmental factors such as high temperature and humidity in the summer months."

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Yep, that is something what we discussed earlier, I would add more UV from sunshine in spring/summer will a) damage the virus on surfaces and in air, b) people exposed to sunshine create vitamin D (it supports immune system).
PS: I've been using "damage" instead of "kill" as the virus is not an living organism..
PPS: what the people down under think about it? Covid19 in summer?

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SARS infected people were easier to spot because the disease developed quicker so the disease didn't spread around the world

COVID-19 infected people mostly go unnoticed so it already spread all around the world and even if it is likely to be affected by summer weather (but we do not know yet for sure) don't forget that the earth is made of 2 hemispheres where the seasons are reversed so it is not going to magically disappear

I just see too many people misunderstanding realistic worry for panic
we need to act now
the stricter and more self-controlled and rational would be our behavior the shorter would be the crisis

besides that you can't define what is alive or not, the border between self-replicating chemical reactions and life is just too blurred as all life forms come anyway from just self-replicating chemical reactions

there are viruses that are larger and more complex than many bacteria and bacteria that are as simple as viruses or just have become an eukaryotic cell organelle (mitochondria)...

classifications and categorizations are just a shortcuts, reality is much more complex and messy

iMo:
Newest Italy statistics with interesting data:

https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_17_marzo-v2.pdf


--- Quote ---The average age of deceased and positive COVID-19 patients is 79.5 years (median 80.5, range 31-103, InterQuartile Range - IQR 74.3-85.9). There are 601 women (30.0%).
Figure 1 shows that the median age of COVID-19 positive deceased patients is more than 15 years higher than that of patients who contracted the infection (median age: deceased patients 80.5 years - patients infected with 63 years).
Figure 2 shows the number of deaths by age group. Women who died after contracting COVID-19 infection are older than men (median ages: women 83.7 - men 79.5).
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--- Quote ---Table 1 presents the most common pre-existing chronic pathologies (diagnosed before contracting the infection) in deceased patients. This figure was obtained in 355/2003 deaths (17.7% of the overall sample).
The average number of pathologies observed in this population is 2.7 (median 2, Standard Deviation 1.6).
Overall,
3 patients (0.8% of the sample) had 0 pathologies,
89 (25.1%) had 1 pathology,
91 had 2 pathologies (25.6%) and
172 (48.5%) had 3 or more pathologies.
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--- Quote ---To date (17 March), 17 COVID-19 positive patients have died under the age of 50. In particular, 5 of these were less than 40 and they were all male people aged between 31 and 39 with serious pre-existing pathologies (cardiovascular, renal, psychiatric pathologies, diabetes, obesity).
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paulca:

--- Quote from: Simon on March 19, 2020, 08:57:18 pm ---The UK curve, an almost perfect exponential curve of inaction!

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

They can't even be botherd to update that until 6pm but it always says 9am, that's public health england, hopeless morons.

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It's pointless anyway.  The UK stats where one of the first bits of truth to go.  Look at the number of recovered versus deaths.  They are only testing hospitalised patients and rich people.

I stopped watching them, the data is so badly skewed it's more wrong than right.

That and as normal, "Public Health England" are looking after their own, but claiming to be "UK Wide".  You will note the Northern Ireland stats are poor and mostly an estimate with no break down.

Muttley Snickers:

--- Quote from: ixqprint on March 20, 2020, 09:14:19 am ---Although many people around the world have been infected, a lot of people who go to the supermarket still do not wear masks and do not take any protective measures.As a Chinese who has just experienced a long period of isolation, I have to say that protection is a must.The government asked us to be quarantined for a while before we started work.Now, Chinese factories are finally operating again.But many businesses around the world are struggling to survive because of the virus. Click here to learn
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paulca:

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It's bizarre.  Capitalism and communism seemed to have swapped places.

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