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| Muttley Snickers:
These people have posted spam here before in the same manner, behind the important information façade is a link to their website. ::) |
| engrguy42:
FYI, today the CDC is reporting a total of 150 people have died so far from COVID-19 in the US (population 330 million). WHO is reporting 100 people have died so far in US. Since yesterday the total deaths were around 50, it seems certain (IMO) that the news media will focus on the fact that the death rate has nearly doubled or tripled, rather than on the fact that it's only 100-150 deaths total. And since it seems the entire country is pretty much shut down right now, maybe there's a light at the end of the tunnel, and maybe this will end up being another short-lived SARS. BTW, anyone remember this? "So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is...fear itself — nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance. In every dark hour of our national life a leadership of frankness and of vigor has met with that understanding and support of the people themselves which is essential to victory." |
| Zero999:
--- Quote from: rgarito on March 20, 2020, 01:29:39 am --- --- Quote from: VK3DRB on March 20, 2020, 12:05:33 am ---Electronics manufacturing should return to the West, IMO. Manufacturing is now highly automated, so there is little excuse not to relocate to the West other than much of the skills and infrastructure we once had is now lost. --- End quote --- One word: Chemicals. So many environmental restrictions in the USA for a lot of the chemicals we use to build this stuff. (and mostly for good reason). The USA tends to use foreign countries to do our "dirty work." --- End quote --- Yes, that's true. You don't shit on your own doorstep. --- Quote from: rgarito on March 20, 2020, 01:32:20 am --- --- Quote from: TerminalJack505 on March 20, 2020, 12:41:06 am --- This, along with earlier reports that a person doesn't show symptoms for up to 5 days, shows, in my opinion, that people should be wearing face masks when they are out in public--to protect others! Of course, the "experts" are saying face masks are useless but what they are likely really saying (if they are truly an expert in the matter) is that they don't want health care professionals to run out of supplies. I fully expect for them to change their tune once the supply chain isn't so strained. --- End quote --- Exactly. The REAL problem with face masks in the USA is that there is a shortage of them. At this point you can find a gold bar on the street easier than you can get a face mask at a local drug store. The CDC apparently just told doctors to even use bandanna's if necessary. :o New York City's mayor is now saying the city will run out of "medical supplies" within 2-3 weeks at the current rates. --- End quote --- I think a big benifit of face masks is they stop people from touching their faces unconsciously, thus will help cut the spread, so for most people a cheap, crappy mask will do. --- Quote from: engrguy42 on March 20, 2020, 10:04:27 am ---FYI, today the CDC is reporting a total of 150 people have died so far from COVID-19 in the US (population 330 million). WHO is reporting 100 people have died so far in US. Since yesterday the total deaths were around 50, it seems certain (IMO) that the news media will focus on the fact that the death rate has nearly doubled or tripled, rather than on the fact that it's only 100-150 deaths total. --- End quote --- That's a huge increase. Imagine if the death rate increased at that rate for the next 10 days. We're dealing with exponentials and numbers get big, very quickly. |
| engrguy42:
Zero999: "That's a huge increase. Imagine if the death rate increased at that rate for the next 10 days. We're dealing with exponentials and numbers get big, very quickly." That's the point. You can imagine anything you want. You're assuming we're dealing with exponentials in every case, and that today's results predict the future. Today China reported its second day with no new cases. That's not exponential. The country where it started is reporting no new cases. Now you're free to dismiss China's numbers as propaganda, and you may be right. But then why would they report so many cases prior to this, or even mention it at all? The WHO reports that the Western Pacific region has been declining in cases since early February. And if you consider that most countries have locked everything down recently, at some point it seems reasonable to expect that to have a positive impact. Or, as some seem to want to believe, the world is ending tomorrow. Take your pick. |
| thinkfat:
--- Quote from: engrguy42 on March 20, 2020, 12:32:04 pm ---Zero999: "That's a huge increase. Imagine if the death rate increased at that rate for the next 10 days. We're dealing with exponentials and numbers get big, very quickly." That's the point. You can imagine anything you want. You're assuming we're dealing with exponentials in every case, and that today's results predict the future. Today China reported its second day with no new cases. That's not exponential. The country where it started is reporting no new cases. Now you're free to dismiss China's numbers as propaganda, and you may be right. But then why would they report so many cases prior to this, or even mention it at all? The WHO reports that the Western Pacific region has been declining in cases since early February. And if you consider that most countries have locked everything down recently, at some point it seems reasonable to expect that to have a positive impact. Or, as some seem to want to believe, the world is ending tomorrow. Take your pick. --- End quote --- https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ See the graph for total fatalities. Nice exponential growth. Do you expect this curve to just flatten out over night? |
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