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vodka:

--- Quote from: engrguy42 on March 20, 2020, 02:15:28 pm ---
--- Quote from: Siwastaja on March 20, 2020, 02:09:07 pm ---
We mostly don't get news about Italy and Spain now in the mass media anymore, because the news are too bad. Most of the information from our Government from now is echo chambering how well they think they are handling the situation, and how Finland has definitely enough resources in the healthcare (as the only country in the world!)


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Yeah, according to WHO today Italy is doing the worst of all, with 473 new deaths in the last day, compared to 42 in US and 11 in China. Spain is at 107.

By the way, WOW, Finland has NO DEATHS at all from COVID19. Bravo.

Actually there are a whole bunch of countries with no deaths at all. Israel, Vietnam, Iceland, much of Southeast Asia (eg, India region), etc.

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What the fuck? At the morning 8am we were 833 deaths. Now , when i am writing the message are almost 4pm in Spain, we are 1102 deaths. Almost 300 deaths more than this morning.


Cifras totales: 19.980 casos diagnosticados, 1002 muertos (Today 12pm)

7.165 en Madrid (628 muertos)
3.270 en Cataluña (82 muertos)
1.465 en País Vasco (71 muertos)
1.105 en la Comunidad Valenciana (33 muertos)
1.287 en Andalucía (30 muertos)
1.044 en Castilla-La Mancha (62 muertos)
1.147 en Castilla y León (43 muertos)
497 en La Rioja (7 muertos)
554 en Navarra(5 muertos)
578 en Galicia (5 muertos)
360 en Aragón (17 muertos)
344 en Asturias (2 muertos)
297 en Extremadura (10 muertos)
287 en Canarias (4 muertos)
203 en Baleares (2 muertos)
204 en Murcia
144 en Cantabria (1 muerto)
24 en Melilla
5 en Ceuta
Se han curado 1.588 personas

Lack  the upgrading date deaths in the Cataluña , that the m..fk publish each day to 8pm.

In Madrid have the crematories working 24 hours per day , burning the fallings . There are three hospitals COLLAPSED and other 4 almost full. Besides there are protocols for leaving to die elder people that have  hope of life less of the 2 years
Simon:
Can we all calm down.
Nominal Animal:
Finnish Ministry of Health has also given directions as to what information can be divulged, so it is unlikely that we'd know even if there had already been covid-19 deaths here.  If we look at how they failed to inform the public of the Tsernobyl meltdown here, it would certainly be typical.  The decision to stop testing except for health personnel and politically privileged individuals in Helsinki-Uusimaa region was certainly just to control the appearance of the severity of the situation; purely political.

I suspect the Finnish government has realized that they missed the time window to successfully apply harder quarantine measures, and that if they tried to apply them now, they'd lose the support of their own voter base, so they're betting everything on the herd immunity chance, with older folks voluntarily isolating themselves.
drussell:

--- Quote from: engrguy42 on March 20, 2020, 02:09:56 pm ---So yeah, definitely it will be tough. But what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.  :D
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Tell that to someone who "recovers" from this coronavirus with permanent lung damage.

Tell that to the tens of thousands of people who have already lost their jobs here in the past week, or the hundreds of thousands that will be out of work soon as this drags on for months and leaves closures and bankrupcies in its wake...

This is likely to really, really suck... 
(Mostly from the follow-on consequences more than the actual virus,...)
Cerebus:

--- Quote from: DrG on March 20, 2020, 04:18:01 am ---How about we talk more about wearing a face shield.

Now, if an incubator sneezes in her direction, her nose, eyes and mouth are protected. Is that plastic going to actually work? Yeah, pretty well https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24467190 at least for 8.5 μm aerosols but less so for 3.4 μm and as the large particles settle and the smaller particles are dispersing, their effectiveness goes down because the little devils are working their way around. Although, just keeping your distance (72") helps a lot and it goes back up.

Short of a real respirator, I would choose a face shield over a face mask. At least that is my thinking right now.

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Corollary:

When operating on any patient surgical teams wear face masks to protect the patient from them.

When operating on patients who present an infection risk to the operating team, the operating team wear face shields to protect them from the patient.
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