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mzzj:

--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on March 20, 2020, 04:29:03 pm ---Do you realize that Juha Sarkio (director-general of the public governance department of the Finnish ministry of finance) would not have been able to get tested, if he was just an ordinary citizen?  His exposure was under the THL requirements for getting tested; the only reason he got tested was his connections.

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Even if I normally would wish 90% of politic figures happy journey to hell I think its equally important to keep the existing government operational and healthy as the healthcare workers in a situation like this.
If testing capacity currently is 1500 tests per day and they run at nearly 80% capacity I don't see any difference if they make 200 extra tests per day. Those 200 extra tests would reveal probably less than 20 cases.


I have had corona-like symptoms(itchy throat, slight fever, chest pain and slight difficult in breathing) since last sunday and 2 of my close acquaintances have very similar symptoms but testing wouldn't make me feel any better. 
I guess we will see in a week or two if the slowdown process is enough efficient or if its even too efficient.
If the purpose is to suffer through this disease there is no point to try to slow it down too much. Delaying tactics until vaccination don't seem probable.

 
not1xor1:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 20, 2020, 05:40:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: not1xor1 on March 20, 2020, 05:32:33 pm ---just one fact: you only like wishful thinking and ignorance (outdated figures, not understanding how China stopped the contagion)

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It'd be helpful if you explained how you think things really are with properly quoted sources, instead of being stuck in repeat how everyone has got it wrong. Opinions are irrelevant. Facts are not.

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we are just telling there is a hole in our Titanic ship but you pretend to ignore that and go on drinking and dancing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States (US: 15,367 cases 177 deaths)

something may be wrong here or in the previous one (probably here they forgot to update the cases number as it is the same I read yesterday):
https://www.corriere.it/speciale/esteri/2020/mappa-coronavirus/ (US: 14,631 cases 210 deaths)

OK I managed to find the link to the original (and correct) map now:
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 (US: 16,018 cases 210 deaths)
Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: not1xor1 on March 20, 2020, 06:23:44 pm ---https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States (US: 15,367 cases 177 deaths)

something may be wrong here on in the previous one (probably here they forgot to update the cases number as it is the same I read yesterday):
https://www.corriere.it/speciale/esteri/2020/mappa-coronavirus/ (US: 14,631 cases 210 deaths)

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This is the equivalent of just pointing someone to Google. It's becoming clear you have no interest in the subject or actually discussing it. You've been asked to contribute anything tangible or substantial and consistently refuse to do so, which at this point can only be interpreted as being intentionally facetious. How about you just go away and let the adults have a productive discussion?
not1xor1:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 20, 2020, 06:34:15 pm ---
--- Quote from: not1xor1 on March 20, 2020, 06:23:44 pm ---https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States (US: 15,367 cases 177 deaths)

something may be wrong here on in the previous one (probably here they forgot to update the cases number as it is the same I read yesterday):
https://www.corriere.it/speciale/esteri/2020/mappa-coronavirus/ (US: 14,631 cases 210 deaths)

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This is the equivalent of just pointing someone to Google. It's becoming clear you have no interest in the subject or actually discussing it. You've been asked to contribute anything tangible or substantial and consistently refuse to do so, which at this point can only be interpreted as being intentionally facetious. How about you just go away and let the adults have a productive discussion?

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LOL
this looks like a case study of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection  ;D
Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: not1xor1 on March 20, 2020, 06:23:44 pm ---we are just telling there is a hole in our Titanic ship but you pretend to ignore that and go on drinking and dancing

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No, we're not. That's just your excuse to stir panic and act up. People are putting on life vests and getting into boats while you're running and shouting and tripping people up.


--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on March 20, 2020, 04:36:56 pm ---That's not what he said. People need to stop interpreting the refusal to get caught up in the panic and fear as treating things lightly. Fear is useless. Preparation is not. The best thing to do is stay calm, take sensible precautions and monitor the situation. Endlessly repeating it's going to be horrible is useless and counter productive. Many people are going to die. We know this. Get ready.

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