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| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: nctnico on March 20, 2020, 09:06:52 pm --- :palm: I don't get why you insist on denying the major difference between the flu and Covid19. Covid19 causes pneumonia / ARDS which requires a far more extensive treatment compared to the flu. Sure flu kills people too but in most cases these are people who are already weakened and thus are close to death anyway. OTOH Covid19 also seriously affects healthy people due to the pneumonia / ARDS. This shouldn't need explaining with all the information already presented. --- End quote --- I just discussed lungs being affected differently a few posts ago. COVID-19 doesn't seem to affect healthy people on a significant scale. Younger healthy people don't fall very ill or have something which looks a lot like a regular flu with a nasty cough. The vast majority of serious cases and deaths are in China were the 70 plus age bracket and people with pre-existing conditions. Western numbers seem to show similar patterns. There are exceptions as there are with flu. When people do get seriously ill they can need ventilation which indeed is a difference. |
| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: thinkfat on March 20, 2020, 09:28:34 pm ---This will be an interesting walk on the razors edge. If we suppress the spread too much, we'll likely have a second wave in autumn and winter again. I don't think we'll have a vaccine by that time... --- End quote --- We don't want to slow it to flu like speed either as that facilitates endless loops of infection. Not that we really have to worry about that now. |
| Muttley Snickers:
Up until a couple of years ago I rarely if ever got sick or even caught a cold but last year I was struck with the flu and suffered terribly in isolation for a few weeks. I tried everything at the time including Tamiflu but couldn't shake it off and really don't want to go through that experience again. ::) I already have heart disease, vascular disease and respiratory problems so am not looking forward to catching this new virus at all. Unfortunately the people around here still don't seem to understand as they continue to attend at the local supermarket like it's an opportunity for a social gathering. :o |
| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: Sredni on March 20, 2020, 09:38:48 pm ---Look at the silver lining. If you catch it, you would not die of it. You will be registered as "dead due to pre-existing conditions". Because that's the line of reasoning in the countries that are still in denial. As a side note, the US is gonna see a spike in deaths for obesity. --- End quote --- I'm not trying to contradict what you say, but I'm striking out when I look for exact definitions. I find reports phrased in the style of "the majority of COVID-19 deaths are tied to pre-existing conditions" which suggests those are counted. Can you point me in the direction of sources which show otherwise? |
| Simon:
--- Quote from: Muttley Snickers on March 20, 2020, 09:31:13 pm ---Up until a couple of years ago I rarely if ever got sick or even caught a cold but last year I was struck with the flu and suffered terribly in isolation for a few weeks. I tried everything at the time including Tamiflu but couldn't shake it off and really don't want to go through that experience again. ::) I already have heart disease, vascular disease and respiratory problems so am not looking forward to catching this new virus at all. Unfortunately the people around here still don't seem to understand as they continue to attend at the local supermarket like it's an opportunity for a social gathering. :o --- End quote --- Yea, people crowding into shops are just stupid. I will be wearing a P2 dust mask next time and safety glasses if i have any in the house. i also have a couple of pairs of P3 filters on the way that had not sold out. |
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