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Zero999:

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--- Quote from: Siwastaja on March 21, 2020, 04:45:14 pm ---If I understood correctly, the idea was that the Chinese predicted when the peak demand in intensive care is going to be, and being prepared early, they could build something which is inbetween a really proper hospital, and a makeshift temporary hospital converted from something else. The details matter, and you can get many details right (even if not all) when you have a week to design and another to build. If you are super efficient, at least.

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China built TWO types of new hospitals, makeshift ones and semi-permanent ones. The former is for taking confirmed patients from society to a controlled recovery place, the latter is to treat those severe cases that need real hospital resources.

In Wuhan, they built 16 makeshift ones, and they can be taken apart overnight too. After all those are just foam boards and MDF boards placed in stadiums. Those real hospitals took longer to built, clocking in at 7 days and 10 days, and they have real gears like properly ventilated wards, CT scanners, labs and more. They only built two of them in Wuhan, and a few in other major cities anticipating mass influx of patients from abroad.

Some of those semi-permanent hospitals will be converted to permanent settings for future pandemic mitigation, like the original one in Beijing built for SARS (conversion started late January, finished early March), some will remain there for future conversion. I don't see they plan to remove any of them.

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China really have shown the rest of the world how to deal with the problem.

If we shutdown the whole of the UK for few weeks, only allowing hospital staff to use pubic transport, this could be over quickly. Food could even be strictly controlled, to cut down the numbers in shops. Most people in the UK are fat enough they could cope with hardly eating for few weeks. We really need to come down on this hard.

SiliconWizard:
The fact people living in more crowded spaces are more at risk doesn't seem that weird to me. No reason to make this a political matter.

Cerebus:

--- Quote from: mzzj on March 21, 2020, 06:38:29 pm ---
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--- Quote from: Zero999 on March 21, 2020, 03:16:00 pm ---
I think the higher smoking rate in Chinese men was probably most likely to blame for the higher death rate in males. I don't have any definite statistics but I believe the sex ratio of smokers in my age group in the UK is opposite: more females, than male smokers. If I cast my mind back to when I was 15, more of the girls at school smoked, than the boys. It will be interesting to see how it plays out in the UK.

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Read somewhere that so far the muslim population in UK has been hit hardest. Like 10x infections  or something.
Extended families with grandparents living under the same roof and eating habits like sharing the same plate of food among family members.

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Likely to be bullshit propaganda put out by some nut-job who wants to cast Muslims in a bad light.

I live in one of, if not the, the most Muslim boroughs in the country (32% of population) and there are, as of now, 42 officially confirmed cases (irrespective of religion etc. etc) out of 350,000 people in the borough (12/100,000), a comparable rate to other London boroughs. Our (less densely populated) neighbour Essex  has 2.92 cases/100,000 and 0.3% Muslims, the London borough of Kensington and Chelsea (richest, and probably the 'whitest' London borough - over 70% white) 42.2 cases/100,000. Based on that, it's clearly rich white folks who are the hotbed of disease.

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Pretty sure I saw percents also mentioned somewhere but this is a concern even mids muslims themself, not just some white-chistian-nutjob
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/coronavirus-muslim-mosque-closure-prayer-nhs-a9411936.html

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Whatever the motivation, the numbers just don't bear it out. Like I say, more Muslims in my neighbourhood than anywhere else in Britain - no more cases than any other London borough.

Cerebus:

--- Quote from: vodka on March 21, 2020, 06:46:42 pm ---
--- Quote from: blueskull on March 21, 2020, 04:48:01 pm ---
--- Quote from: VK3DRB on March 20, 2020, 11:18:55 pm ---Western doctors are saying masks do nothing unless you are already infected. But these Chinese doctors all are wearing masks, most of them cheapo surgical masks, not P95's.

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What makes the West correct?


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To make like Spiriman: Jesus Candel.  When the threat was far, laught and  without giving importance because the covid is seemd to the "cold" (no flu) . When the plague arrived and Spiriman is in the 1st frontline.
The balls put him by tie. And he began to scream,cry,gasp by youtube and TV about of dangerousnes of the covid. Furthermore, he had info about their italian mates.

Here,this is the video  of the Joan Planas that teardown to hypocrit of Jesus Candel.

https://youtu.be/UxlwLaGHxQE

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You do realise that this makes no sense to anybody, don't you. Not the content, the language. I literally cannot even guess what you're trying to say. Are you using Google translate or something similar to post your messages? It just comes out as word salad.

not1xor1:

--- Quote from: BravoV on March 21, 2020, 09:57:33 am ---
--- Quote from: not1xor1 on March 21, 2020, 06:47:04 am ---of course that is also a form of propaganda, but medical staff exhaustion is over since days if not weeks as new cases have been lower and lower for a while
stop looking for evil plots

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Since you are using Italian flag, just curious as these are not covered mostly by western news agencies.

Is it true China have sent medical teams and also medical supplies to Italy to help ? Or its just another lie ?

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no that's true, and they have criticized Italian people because just still too many of them do not abide by the quarantine rules
they have also sent a lot of supplies

the following was a misunderstanding:
a huge part of with has been stolen by the asshole who rule the Czech republic

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