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Fluke 8050A 473777
« on: January 04, 2012, 03:11:50 pm »
I recently got a Fluke 8050A that doesn't work. When I turn it on, a chip labeled 473777 gets hot. What does that cross reference to? It's on a ceramic PCB.
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Re: Fluke 8050A 473777
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2012, 07:34:36 pm »
The "ceramic PCB" is the RMS converter hybrid (Fluke P/N 537209).  From a google search, I think the 473777 chip is a differential-output opamp.  I suspect it's all made of unobtainium.   :(
 

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Re: Fluke 8050A 473777
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2012, 02:44:04 am »
I noticed that the power connections matched that of a common LM358, so with little to lose, I just tried one. It sortof works - the reading increases when the input increases but it is uselessly nonlinear. (That chip is near the output of the module, so I guess it takes the square root or something.) Looks like time to replace that module with a LTC1968 circuit since the rest of the meter is in good condition. (The previous owner even replaced the batteries! I replaced the constant current charger with a smart charger so it doesn't overcharge the batteries if left plugged in for a long time.)

Some signal tracing with a scope also found a bad 4016 in the AC signal path, but the preamps were fine. My guess is that the previous owner must have damaged the 4016 and 473777 while replacing the batteries (most likely ESD or an accidental short circuit), then threw the meter away in frustration after it fails to turn on with new batteries. The meter works great on all DC and resistance measurements after I removed the shorted 473777.
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Re: Fluke 8050A 473777
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2014, 08:04:49 pm »
I know this topic is old, but I wanted to put this information out here for other who have the same problem. The 'magic' Fluke 473777 is just a selected dual-opamp like an LM358 or similar. This same chip is used in the RMS converter in the Fluke 8060A for which a schematic is given on page 8-13 of the manual (see http://w140.com/sbcman/Technical%20Manuals-Main/Fluke-common/88XX-series/8860A_SM.pdf). This schematic shows the chip as a standard dual opamp. I haven't tried it, but I suspect that it is a selected LM358 based on the age of the meter.

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Re: Fluke 8050A 473777
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2014, 12:30:21 am »
 Now I cannot immediately recall why but the LF353 comes to mind as the opamp used.
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