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| jake111:
I look at it this way. It's either the NSA (for technology originating from the USA and likely EU, UK, etc) or the genocidal communists (for technology originating from china). I'd mention Russia but they already destroyed themselves with communism and there doesn't seem to be much worry here for now. If I can only choose from one of the two, I'd rather it be the NSA since I'm fairly certain they won't be genociding us any time soon. Maybe if you're in china and don't understand the value of liberty (not that we have much of that left in USA, but there is still some, no one has come for my AR-10 yet), then you think you'd rather be under the control of the commies but that always ends badly, so... I'm more worried about data brokers vacuuming up all of our information and making billions selling it every year without our control. Maybe this will change in time, but for now, NSA seems to be more preoccupied with hoarding ALL THE DATA for their deep state activities and helping their friends go after the bad orange man. |
| SerieZ:
I have not watched the SRF but if Government Officials were involved in this I hope they get brought to Justice swiftly. This is a huge Image damage for this Country. >:( |
| TerraHertz:
"This deception happened for decades, ending only in 2018, when the company was liquidated following its sale from the CIA. (Without direct cash payments from the CIA, the company wasn’t actually profitable!) " Anyone asking themselves why the CIA would sell such a useful asset? One might guess, because it had become not-useful. What would make the CIA no longer interested in maintaining backdoors in commonly used crypto products? How about, because the CIA has managed to develop quantum computing systems able to break strong encryption algorithms despite their lack of engineered backdoors. |
| Electro Detective:
--- Quote from: duak on February 12, 2020, 07:40:15 pm --- Ironic, since the CIA has "and ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free" on a wall in its lobby. --- End quote --- Those privileges usually reserved for insiders >:D |
| peter-h:
This is nothing new. The UK kept the WW2 breaks secret for as long as they could - till the mid 1970s or so when it came out. You have to assume the CIA/NSA can read everything you have. It is certain they can read DES/3DES in real time. AES256 probably too. There are reportedly more Grade 1 mathematicians working inside the NSA than in the rest of the world outside. Personally, I don't care if the NSA can read my emails etc. I just don't want chinese hackers getting into the servers which I am responsible for, and most of those are done via weaknesses in... wait for it... open source software :) I doubt quantum computers actually exist, in any useful form. The NSA will have an advantage in cryptanalysis methods which we will hear about say 30 years from now. Then the world will discover AES256 is about as strong as DES is today. Still strong enough for your email etc but not against a State agency. The history of this business seems to be just that. The methods they use today may become known 30 years from now. They just keep ahead. The problem of course is that if the enemy intercepts messages and decodes them 30 years later, they can still get useful stuff. Look at VENONA. That ran until about 1980, on messages which could not be broken after about 1947. |
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