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| voltsandjolts:
I always find 'blind faith' a curious phenomenon. I often catch myself at it, without even noticing. Why VSee? Cool website, nice jingle. Approved for use in Congress. Nine years ago. Their website attacks Skye with some vigor about security vulnerabilities, yet I see no mention of their own, nor how quickly they fixed them. Maybe they haven't had any since they started in 2008? OTOH, here is Signal. Source code, issues, fixes and commits, all there for you or your qualified contractor to security assess. Some find comfort in closed source code but really there is none. https://github.com/signalapp |
| Gyro:
Yep, you're absolutely right, blind faith (and familiarity) is a very big decision factor. VSee have some big customers - IBM, NASA etc. as well having a core business of telemedicine where patient privacy is clearly essential. In the absence of detailed cyrptographical knowledge, the next best thing seems to be to place some trust in the organisations that do. A company that is not owned by another with a potential conflict of interest (especially a social media one), and it being absolutely clear who pays the bills (where their money comes from) is another factor. conversations are end to end encrypted and don't pass through their server. Yes, it's completely fair to call it blind faith, but I have no particular secrets that anyone would be interested in, other than not wishing to open myself up to information harvesting for marketing and other purposes. 'Good enough' seems fine. Particularly if it comes with a nice simple UI, is available on all platforms and has good video compression. If I had more secrets then maybe I might be more concerned but 'good enough' is fine for me. |
| RenThraysk:
--- Quote from: Gyro on January 11, 2021, 07:36:54 pm ---Ok, they may use some marketing speak but VSee is also approved by the US Congress for use behind its firewalls, so its security can't be that bad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VSee Also, clearly documented Security and privacy statements, Signal's are more in the form of 'how do I know it's private' type articles. https://vsee.com/hipaa https://vsee.com/privacy Signal may or may not be better, but it seems silly to totally write something off based on some marketing fluff about AES-256 being Military grade. BTW, I did install Signal last night but wasn't keen on the UI. --- End quote --- Yes, I read them before started commenting. It clearly documented that the free messenger provides no assurances about the security of your data. The marketing nonsense was only thing, and the https://vsee.com/firewall page gave clues (STUN and TURN servers suggesting the WebRTC protocol which almost everyone else is using at this point) as how they are doing the video calls. https://vsee.com/messenger/ Compare HIPAA Messenger Products section Free Messenger column, No BAA. "VSee offers the HIPAA-required Business Associate Agreement where VSee agrees to be responsible for keeping all patient information secure and to immediately report any breach of personal health information." |
| DeanA:
How about LINE app??? https://line.me/en-US/ |
| Halcyon:
--- Quote from: Gyro on January 11, 2021, 12:21:44 pm ---Signal seems to want a hell of a lot of permissions compared to VSee. Just saying. P.S. Ah, yes, it does support iPhone / iPad / Mac --- End quote --- Did you stop to look at what those permissions were? They are pretty straight forward... Don't want to use video calling? Don't enable camera permissions. Don't want to use secure voice calling? Don't enable the microphone or phone permissions. I see nothing wrong with any of them. As for VSee, I literally have never heard of it until just now. It looks to be marketed towards doctors and health professionals, rather than a serious, unified, secure communications platform. Signal does it all (and then some) in one application, even plain old SMS. It's simple, lightweight, secure and it just works with nothing more than a phone number. |
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