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RenThraysk:

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--- Quote from: voltsandjolts on January 13, 2021, 12:35:44 pm ---Or just being a Uyghur

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Yeah, Signal actually got initial funding from Radio Free Asia, which also provides the only Uygur language radio station outside of China. And was fundamental in exposing the re-education camps.

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How about the Southern Yemen people that have been butchered that even UN raised the concern of devastating human right violation there ? Or the Catalan movement in Spain that get suppressed for independence, you guys are interested too or sympathizers ?  ::)

Or how about the latest incident last week at Capitol, Washington, where so called Democracy Warrior was gunned down to death, cold bloodedly by the Capitol police, just because she just tried to push a door.

C'mon, please, stop drifting into politic.

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I don't understand your post considering your first post in this thread. Pointing out Turkish government attempts to prevent it's people having secure communications.
RenThraysk:
Another reason why shouldn't use or recommend Telegram.

Here's a post from Filippo Valsorda's newsletter, Cryptography Dispatches, from a few days ago.

https://buttondown.email/cryptography-dispatches/archive/cryptography-dispatches-the-most-backdoor-looking/

* Filippo Valsorda is in charge of cryptography and security on the Go team at Google.
vad:

--- Quote from: RenThraysk on January 13, 2021, 05:48:24 pm ---Another reason why shouldn't use or recommend Telegram.

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You should not trust Telegram your personal data more than you can trust Durov, Russian billionaire and founder and owner of Telegram.

Durov has a strange episode in his life. He was once involved in hit and run accident, while been chased by police. Despite running over police officer, Durov was acquitted of all charges. And that happened in the country where slightest disrespect towards police, such as throwing an empty paper cup in direction of officer, is punishable by long jail terms. There is an open question how Durov could have avoided prosecution, and whether he and his businesses are controlled by KGB (as a trade off for avoiding jail time).

Durov is also the founder of another social media - VKontakte. After he sold VKontakte to pro-government oligarchs, VKontakte’s users were jailed for posts critical of Russian government, and ‘likes’ of such posts.
vad:
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Halcyon:

--- Quote from: voltsandjolts on January 13, 2021, 11:41:09 am ---
--- Quote from: Ranayna on January 13, 2021, 07:32:20 am ---...telegram being used by right wings, neonazis or conspiracy nutters.
I don't even want to suggest using Telegram anymore, since associations like this tend to stick and generally do not end well.

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Encyption is just a tool that can be used for good or evil, at the users choice.
It's not just Telegram, where did all the bad guys go after EncroPhone got broke? Signal, maybe?
If you don't want to be associated, better not use encyption.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/07/dutch-police-arrest-six-men-after-discovery-of-torture-chamber

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You can have all the encryption in the world, once you get access to the physical device, all bets are off. Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp, Snapchat and others are able to be recovered and parsed from handsets in certain circumstances (provided the messages haven't been deleted and removed from the database, write-ahead log etc...), if you can get the device itself and certain other conditions are met.
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