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DeLorean DMC-12 w/ 1200 miles

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james_s:
A plug in hybrid wouldn't have been any better, my power was out for almost two weeks, I had nowhere to plug it in.

In the 40 years I've lived in this region I can remember twice I had no power for over a week so I never had a need for a backup generator.

angrybird:
Every place I have ever lived has suffered power outages several times a season.  This is due to the majority of the power lines being above ground.  Burying them for most of the USA is not feasible for various reasons.  Every time there is a major storm, there are significant outages, these usually make the news nowadays as the media loves anything that sounds negative or bad.

I don't know how many of these new "plug in" hybrids have gotten rid of the separate battery used for starting the engine, but as long as this battery is charged, you don't need to worry about plugging it in as you will be charging the HV battery whenever the engine is running, whenever you are using regenerative braking, etc.  You can jump start them from another car just like a gasoline vehicle.

NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: james_s on March 06, 2020, 02:51:58 am ---A plug in hybrid wouldn't have been any better, my power was out for almost two weeks, I had nowhere to plug it in.

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All you need are some solar panels at home and a smart inverter that can do backup.

I predict at least a few solar inverter manufacturers will team up with EV manufacturers to allow the use of EVs as energy storage for a solar backup system.

angrybird:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on March 06, 2020, 04:28:45 am ---
--- Quote from: james_s on March 06, 2020, 02:51:58 am ---A plug in hybrid wouldn't have been any better, my power was out for almost two weeks, I had nowhere to plug it in.

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All you need are some solar panels at home and a smart inverter that can do backup.

I predict at least a few solar inverter manufacturers will team up with EV manufacturers to allow the use of EVs as energy storage for a solar backup system.

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No. This is the most ridiculous statement! Do the math!

"Oh, well, my battery died, and I'm at the campground, and it's cloudy, so I'm going to have to wait a few weeks, maybe a month or two before I have enough juice to get home"......

Sorry, not trying to be mean, just do the math  ;D


Edit: Here's some math

Assume a good solar panel... 15 watts per square foot?  In bright sunlight.
Assume the car needs 85kWh for a charge, and let's assume... 80% conversion efficiency from the panels to the car?  That's probably high but oh well.
So you need about 106kWh.

Let's say you have a thousand square feet of solar panel.  A huge panel array!  In bright sunlight you should get 15kWh from these panels and you *should* be able to charge in 7 hours?  Well, you probably won't get 7 hours of bright direct sunlight unless you're in specific geopraphical areas, but it's a day more or less, if it's not raining. Or snowing.  Or cloudy.  Etc.

Ok, so nobody has that much panel.  Let's say it's your typical 100W outdoor panel, you could afford half a dozen of them.  So you have 600W.  Well, it's going to take almost 180 hours... Of direct sunlight.  So let's say you get 8 hours of that per day, you're looking at... 22 days?  Now if it is cloudy, it's, what, twice that? Or more? If it's raining or snowing, even worse?

It's not feasible, not practical, and not going to be any time in the relatively near future.

amyk:

--- Quote from: james_s on March 02, 2020, 10:37:52 pm ---A friend of mine had a DeLorean for a while, he's always buying and selling weird random cars, fixes them up, drives them around for a while, some he keeps, others he sells or trades later. Anyway he said the DeLorean was somewhat disappointing, it was underpowered and not very exciting to drive, not very practical either however it sure does look cool. Those PRV V6 engines were dogs, Volvo used them for a while and their reputation was marred for many years after that. They built some really excellent engines of their own but chose some of the worst 3rd party engines they could find for some models. The V6 was thirstier, less powerful, less reliable and harder to work on than their turbo 4 cylinder. The first time I saw one I thought some incompetent gearhead had done a ridiculous engine swap, the thing sat far forward with a huge gap between the engine and firewall.

I don't think anybody buys a vintage 1200 mile car to drive it, that DeLorean will be a garage or trailer queen.

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That's why engine swaps exist...

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