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Designated "Expert" Forum Users?
DavidAlfa:
I think the "thanks" button is actually sufficient, lets you know your post was useful for somebody, and that's all you need.
Usually there're multiple approaches to overcome a problem, it's ok to discuss the the pros and the cons of each method, without anyone pointing to his shiny expert medal.
The expert tag on wrong hands would quickly escalate to the typical stone age ego fight, "me know more, me have expert tag, you dumb, me better" and quickly ruin the forum ambient, but also could cause PM nightmares to those "experts"...
Siwastaja:
Yes, "thank you" button is already being abused so that the correct and useful answer gets little thanks, but some troublemakers who never technically contribute themselves but only nag to those who do, "thank you" each other's nagging messages. Their game is to make the contributor angry and derail the thread into meaningless bickering. Their greatest success story is when they manage to manipulate a contributor into saying something ugly, then click "report to moderator", manipulate Simon into giving a warning to the contributor (which is quite easy, as Simon has no time or interest of reading pages of worthless bickering). But they usually cannot pull this off, it's like their ultimate goal. I have witnessed this succeeding once or twice.
But to put it in perspective, this phenomenon is so tiny, especially on this forum. I think I haven't seen it at all for over a year now! Being gamed this way has been the only single occasion when I seriously considered leaving this forum behind. Glad that I didn't, it was an isolated incident.
Dislike button or similar is just so much more powerful tool for this purpose that I would expect it becoming detrimental to the moral of those who do contribute. We are humans with emotions, too.
Negativity must be used sparingly, and the best you can do is to couple it to contributing something. Having to write means, you have to at least give some reasons.
rstofer:
--- Quote from: Siwastaja on February 18, 2022, 04:16:54 pm ---Yes, "thank you" button is already being abused so that the correct and useful answer gets little thanks, but some troublemakers who never technically contribute themselves but only nag to those who do, "thank you" each other's nagging messages. Their game is to make the contributor angry and derail the thread into meaningless bickering. Their greatest success story is when they manage to manipulate a contributor into saying something ugly, then click "report to moderator", manipulate Simon into giving a warning to the contributor (which is quite easy, as Simon has no time or interest of reading pages of worthless bickering). But they usually cannot pull this off, it's like their ultimate goal. I have witnessed this succeeding once or twice.
But to put it in perspective, this phenomenon is so tiny, especially on this forum. I think I haven't seen it at all for over a year now! Being gamed this way has been the only single occasion when I seriously considered leaving this forum behind. Glad that I didn't, it was an isolated incident.
Dislike button or similar is just so much more powerful tool for this purpose that I would expect it becoming detrimental to the moral of those who do contribute. We are humans with emotions, too.
Negativity must be used sparingly, and the best you can do is to couple it to contributing something. Having to write means, you have to at least give some reasons.
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I'm an engineer, of course I lack social skills. But the very first down-vote would be my very last. I don't deal well with rejection.
I don't care if people disagree with me, reasonable people can disagree. But down-voting is personal and insulting.
Ranayna:
@rstofer
That very well matches my experience with the Stack sites :D
My first question was essentially iognored, must have been to specialised, my second question got an answer, and actually a couple of upvotes, my third question was downvoted to hell.
I have not logged into the site since then. It's admittedly sometimes useful for looking for answers, but i have absolutely no wish to contribute anymore.
Enabling downvotes will also create a nightmare for the moderators: People *will* complain. People *will* abuse such a system. And moderators *need* to deal with that.
nctnico:
--- Quote from: Siwastaja on February 18, 2022, 04:16:54 pm ---Yes, "thank you" button is already being abused so that the correct and useful answer gets little thanks, but some troublemakers who never technically contribute themselves but only nag to those who do, "thank you" each other's nagging messages. Their game is to make the contributor angry and derail the thread into meaningless bickering. Their greatest success story is when they manage to manipulate a contributor into saying something ugly, then click "report to moderator", manipulate Simon into giving a warning to the contributor (which is quite easy, as Simon has no time or interest of reading pages of worthless bickering). But they usually cannot pull this off, it's like their ultimate goal. I have witnessed this succeeding once or twice.
But to put it in perspective, this phenomenon is so tiny, especially on this forum. I think I haven't seen it at all for over a year now! Being gamed this way has been the only single occasion when I seriously considered leaving this forum behind. Glad that I didn't, it was an isolated incident.
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Yeah, I've have seen my fair share of baiting as well. But I guess this forum has run out of people that allow themselves to take things personally or allow them to be lead into circular discussions. Not a good thing though because some knowledgeble contributors went away.
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