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PlainName:

--- Quote from: rstofer on February 19, 2022, 08:37:19 pm ---
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on February 19, 2022, 06:17:17 pm ---
I would also suggest that users' 'valuable' count isn't shown (as the thanks count is now). It's not about who posted and entirely about the content, which stands alone.

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If nobody can see it, who does see it?

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The author, on his profile page.


--- Quote ---  And what does it mean if only the author of a reply can see it?
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It means the author feels good (or not if he has a zero count, maybe). Isn't that enough?


--- Quote ---Why keep a statistic and then hide it?
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Yes, quite, let's just not keep the static at all. But some people will whine, and it is nice to know that one is appreciated, so it's not entirely surplus. But why would you want the world to know the count unless it's to massage your ego? That way is heading to the thing we're trying to prevent: playing the stats.


--- Quote --- After all, we're trying to tag the experts without flashing their username in bright colors and somehow super-size their replies.
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Er, no we're not. That was a suggestion to help beginners because they can't tell from the myriad (hopefully!) responses which are bullshit and which are pukka. The first solution was "we can sey XXX is an expert so their replies count more than anyone elses", but as pointed out earlier that could be a forum killer.

What we are actually trying to do is not identify users with badges but the content which is appropriate and useful. That may or may not come from alleged experts, and you only have to look at a recent windy exchange as to how apparently knowledgeable users can spout complete rubbish in the face of contrary evidence.
PlainName:

--- Quote ---Where would you expect to get a better introduction to Ohm's Law?
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As a beginner I might not know I need to learn about Ohm's Law. But maybe someone will tell me "Hey, you really need to know Ohm's Law and a good video introduction is xxx". Maybe that would give me a clue on what to google, too.

HobGoblyn:
One of my pet hates is when someone asks something and someone else responds with a sarcastic answer along the lines of “a 5 second google ………”

First it’s rude,

Second, it could be argued that 95% + of technical forum questions could be answered by googling, probably 99.9% when it comes to beginners, so why bother having say a beginners section in the first place, why not simply have a message telling beginners that all their questions can be answered by using google.

Third, very often a beginner doesn’t quite understand exactly what they are asking, hence isn’t sure on what to actually google.

A 3D printer Facebook group I belong to, the owner recently posted the following

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NOTICE:

There was an instance yesterday where a beginner was ridiculed for not knowing what another member decided he should know and un-kind comments were made.

I have guaranteed since the creation of this group that all members will have a pleasant experience here.  Do not treat this group like others on Facebook I will not tolerate any user being unkind,  telling users to use Google,  telling users to RTFM,  making smart comments.   I will not give any warning,  if I see it,  or am informed about such behaviour from a moderator or admin,  I will immediately ban members from this group without warning.

There is no such thing as a dumb question and I do not care how many times its been asked before.  Either answer the question or post nothing.   

New and inexperienced users are welcome in my group and can ask any questions they feel they need to ask without fear of ridicule.
Carel:

--- Quote from: MK14 on February 19, 2022, 10:43:19 am ---
Which (can) then leads on to lots of off-topic threads, uninteresting threads for those wanting real technical threads, on a forum they are a member of. It can then attract the wrong sort of new forum members (not trying to be rude, but imagine if a facebook cat lover, joins, just to post in the CAT thread, Cooking Threads area and post crazy/silly electronics questions, which are so hapless, that no one here, can possibly help them).


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Always watch out with assumptions, with your facebook cat lover.

In my second post (in cats) I explained what my activities were. Maybe someone else was interested, doing the same. DIY pet RFID is a vanishing thing on the internet. So be it. So I tried if it came up to help other people with other problems and if it came up, post a picture of my cats. People wanted unique photo's, not internet grabs.

So now I have these strange and wrong statistics on the left side of my post. Just because someone tries to make somehow statistics work, where you should'nt apply them. It is a stain.

And the horrible look this discussion gives inside of the workings of a forum. Any, if that makes you feel better.




Someone:

--- Quote from: HobGoblyn on February 19, 2022, 11:00:58 pm ---One of my pet hates is when someone asks something and someone else responds with a sarcastic answer along the lines of “a 5 second google ………”

First it’s rude,
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But its not rude to walk into a public area and ask a question so banal that it could be answered by googling the exact terms the OP uses? It shows stupidity and a desire from the OP to do no work, and someone who will likely just ask again and again with every little thing. Perpetuate/support/cultivate that and you have a forum full of crud and very little interesting content to bring/keep the knowledgeable people in.

Contrast with these better explained examples:
--- Quote from: rstofer on February 19, 2022, 09:56:48 pm ---OP questions are more interesting if there is some display of effort before posting.  "Here's what I did, here's what I got and here's what I want" shows effort.  A simple "Here's what I want" may not be as interesting.  If questions aren't interesting, there may not be as many replies.  Perhaps questions get more interesting as the replies pile in.
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--- Quote from: rstofer on February 19, 2022, 10:13:25 pm ---There's nothing wrong with admitting your Google Foo failed.  It happens all the time.  One missing term and all you get is nonsense.  For the amplifier, including "signal" in the query helps focus the replies.  But it still shows effort!  "I searched for <some query> and didn't get the results I want.  I want to increase the signal voltage of a <some input device> to <some output>."  It shows effort!  At least the question is coherent.
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