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| tggzzz:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on February 22, 2022, 11:34:37 am --- --- Quote from: wilfred on February 22, 2022, 11:07:47 am ---Are we better off without it? I suppose that depends on how irritated you found using it as a way to promote tribalism in controversial discussions. I didn't find that a problem and lament the loss of the facility to say thanks without an explicit post. Which IIRC it was to minimise multiple people doing just that. --- End quote --- The forum would be worse off without it. When it was first introduced almost everyone liked the idea of having the ability to Thank a post. It was a nice way to say you appreciated the effort that went into the post, or agree with it etc, without pollutiing the thread with a copy of the post and a :-+ +1 :clap: etc Essentially it rewards good and often extensive technical posts. A little deserving dopamine hit for the author. The majority though didn't like the Thanks count being shown under the username on every post for the reasons discussed, and the new poll in the other thread still shows that's the case. Almost everyone seems ok wiht having the count burried away in the user profile. That's something I can also disable, but no one has really asked for that. --- End quote --- I'm content with that. Being able to indicate that a post was helpful (without many "+1"s) is a benefit. If someone wants to go and play numerology with the thanks count, then they can do that without it becoming a shiny trinket/prize visible to all. No problem. |
| magic:
It's easy to be smug and dismissive wrt to addiction behaviors when it isn't you who collected 90% of your thanks from treez... |
| jpanhalt:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on February 22, 2022, 11:34:37 am --- Almost everyone seems ok wiht having the count burried away in the user profile. That's something I can also disable, but no one has really asked for that. --- End quote --- Actually, I and some others have suggested that no cumulative record be kept of thanks. Thanking someone is an immediate courtesy to the poster. Why make it a score? Consider a courteous driver who lets another driver into a line of traffic -- say a driver exiting a fueling station onto a side street. Most of the times, the driver who is let in waves a thanks. At least that happens in the US. Some borish people don't do that. In either case, no one keeps score. |
| PlainName:
--- Quote ---Actually, I and some others have suggested that no cumulative record be kept of thanks. Thanking someone is an immediate courtesy to the poster. --- End quote --- In an ideal world it would be just like that, but in practice you post and move on, then perhaps next week someone reads your post and thinks it worthy of thanks. You never see it. Periodically I have a browse through my thanked posts list and see what people appreciated. Sometimes it's surprising, and sometimes I see that someone I helped (but maybe forgot about) said thanks and I never noticed. Summary: I like the list, the in-post thanks is useful but the count itself is pretty meaningless. While the count was being displayed all over, I did a quick calculation for various users of post-to-thanks ratio. Typically it was in the range 3 to 6 but some posters who I expected to score well didn't. I can only think they don't have many cat photos. |
| Zero999:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on February 22, 2022, 12:32:23 pm --- --- Quote ---Actually, I and some others have suggested that no cumulative record be kept of thanks. Thanking someone is an immediate courtesy to the poster. --- End quote --- In an ideal world it would be just like that, but in practice you post and move on, then perhaps next week someone reads your post and thinks it worthy of thanks. You never see it. Periodically I have a browse through my thanked posts list and see what people appreciated. Sometimes it's surprising, and sometimes I see that someone I helped (but maybe forgot about) said thanks and I never noticed. Summary: I like the list, the in-post thanks is useful but the count itself is pretty meaningless. --- End quote --- I think a list of posts thanked is a good compromise. It doesn't have to be exhaustive, the last 25 or so posts would be helpful. --- Quote ---While the count was being displayed all over, I did a quick calculation for various users of post-to-thanks ratio. Typically it was in the range 3 to 6 but some posters who I expected to score well didn't. I can only think they don't have many cat photos. --- End quote --- Or they just responded to those who don't use the thanked button loads. --- Quote from: EEVblog on February 22, 2022, 11:34:37 am --- --- Quote from: wilfred on February 22, 2022, 11:07:47 am ---Are we better off without it? I suppose that depends on how irritated you found using it as a way to promote tribalism in controversial discussions. I didn't find that a problem and lament the loss of the facility to say thanks without an explicit post. Which IIRC it was to minimise multiple people doing just that. --- End quote --- The forum would be worse off without it. When it was first introduced almost everyone liked the idea of having the ability to Thank a post. It was a nice way to say you appreciated the effort that went into the post, or agree with it etc, without pollutiing the thread with a copy of the post and a :-+ +1 :clap: etc Essentially it rewards good and often extensive technical posts. A little deserving dopamine hit for the author. The majority though didn't like the Thanks count being shown under the username on every post for the reasons discussed, and the new poll in the other thread still shows that's the case. Almost everyone seems ok wiht having the count burried away in the user profile. That's something I can also disable, but no one has really asked for that. --- End quote --- I don't believe anyone is talking about removing the thanks button. The consensus seems to be that it should remain. --- Quote from: jpanhalt on February 22, 2022, 11:51:05 am --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on February 22, 2022, 11:34:37 am --- Almost everyone seems ok wiht having the count burried away in the user profile. That's something I can also disable, but no one has really asked for that. --- End quote --- Actually, I and some others have suggested that no cumulative record be kept of thanks. Thanking someone is an immediate courtesy to the poster. Why make it a score? Consider a courteous driver who lets another driver into a line of traffic -- say a driver exiting a fueling station onto a side street. Most of the times, the driver who is let in waves a thanks. At least that happens in the US. Some borish people don't do that. In either case, no one keeps score. --- End quote --- I agree. I think the further we can move away from scoring points, the better. One of the things I like about this forum is the lack of competition and egos. The fact that the moderators are mostly impartial is also good. Electro-tech-online was completely the opposite of this place. The karma system was badly abused. What was worse is, one could leave messages. Abusive messages often accompanied negative karma and the moderators didn't do anything about it. On the other hand the over-moderated the forum and displayed bias. Lazy students and free energy zealots would sign up, troll and provoke long standing members. When they got told to kindly bugger off, the long standing member would get banned, leaving the troll to annoy others. I could never understand why saying a free energy zealot was ignorant on the form resulted in an infraction, yet leaving bad karma, with a much more abusive message with swearing was tolerated, by the moderators. Many left. I'm glad this place isn't like that. |
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