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| MK14:
--- Quote from: mawyatt on February 16, 2022, 03:28:45 am ---Maybe you should go over to the IEEE and find out what the membership actually is!!! It's composed of young students, undergraduates, graduate, post grads & professors alike, everyone is welcome, no degrees required!! However, they do demand a high level of credibility in papers that get published. --- End quote --- Thanks!. I didn't know that. It shows bias and false assumptions on my part, sorry. But that is reassuring, that published papers, need high levels of credibility. My opinion is that the real expert, is testing an actual test circuit, which shows how circuits really behave, rather than what the experts, necessarily believe. I.e. Theory and Practice, are very important elements in Electronics and can disagree, sometimes in surprising ways. --- Quote from: mawyatt on February 16, 2022, 03:28:45 am ---My experience indicates that the best teachers are the most knowledgable in the subject matter! When a newbie is asking for help, they are often asking to learn as well, and what better way to enrich this learning experience than expert guidance. --- End quote --- That is very, true. But on the other hand, all sorts of resources, are in limited supply. So, the best (most knowledgeable and experienced) electronics teachers, probably don't have the time and energy, to deal with every single electronics student/hobbyist or fellow electronics expert, in a different field. But when they have got the time and energy, and do post replies on this forum, e.g. in the beginners section. The fact that they are NOT formerly identified as being good/best/expert/great-teacher etc. Is of reasonable concern. Even if the proposed solution, seems to have various drawbacks, as mentioned by myself and others in this thread. I do get concerned myself. When I see obviously wrong, misleading or even possible safety risks, with some of the posts on this forum. But posting a counter-reply, is not always or often done, for various reasons. Some posters are known to be argumentative if you disagree with them, maybe I'm mistaken or wrong myself. Maybe it is just laziness, as more often than not, someone else will pop into the thread and correct the mistake(s). --- Quote from: mawyatt on February 16, 2022, 03:28:45 am ---Dunning-Kruger mountain effect?? --- End quote --- That gets tricky. Because, when I was learning more about that, a while back. It seems to turn out that it is a very often misunderstood concept. Basically, the very vast bulk of the time, the term is incorrectly applied. If I understand the term (correctly). It really is a term that applies to everyone, novice and professional/expert alike. To varying degrees. --- Quote from: mawyatt on February 16, 2022, 03:28:45 am ---And why would we decide on THE one expert, now that would be a brilliant decision!! Anyway, it seems most folks are not in favor of a group of "experts" in various fields, mainly to help newbies with question/answers and some fundamental learnings. --- End quote --- The more I think about and discuss this. The more I feel empathy for beginners. As I said in a previous post in this thread. It is extremely difficult for me to put myself into the shoes of a complete beginner of electronics (again, a long time ago in the past, since I was a beginner). So, I could easily be completely missing the difficulties such people have, in reading the situation. Most of the people who are voting here in this thread, are both already well beyond beginner level, and also who are reasonably well experienced with being on this forum. So in some respects, it would be fairer, to get the opinions of actual beginners to this forum. See how happy or not, they are at telling the good/best answers, from the less helpful ones. |
| basinstreetdesign:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on February 15, 2022, 03:45:38 am ---A forum user brought this up and I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea. Essentially, people could nominate and/or vote on who are known "Experts" in a particular field and give them an "Expert" designator tag. e.g. Analog Expert, Acoustics Expert etc. This could potentially help newbies or generally just anyone asking a question to perhaps be more confident in a technical answer if it comes from a designated "Expert" in that field. Help weed out the weat from the chaff so to speak. I think it's an interesting idea in principle. It's possible in the SMF forum software to have additional categories that where members can be allocated into groups which shows up under their username, just like we currently have for Frequent Contributor, Supporter etc. Of course the posible problems are obvious: 1) It could be seen as an "appeal to authority" which is not how science/engineering is supposed to work. The best technical argument is supposed to "win". 2) Being an expert in one area does not make you an expert in another area, and that's certainly the case when it comes down to something that it's just personal opinion. So maybe some avenue for possible abuse here? Although if it's just a label and the Expert was given no extra moderator power in the forum then maybe that's moot. But I could imagine some getting the label and then it going to their head somehow. 3) It could lead to infighting about who gets the tag, "they aren't worthy of it any more, see this post" etc. You probably couldn't have just "Expert" on it's own of course, that's kind meaningless, it would have to specific like "Analog Expert" etc. Anyway, thoughts please... --- End quote --- I voted no for just those reasons given above. |
| rstofer:
--- Quote from: tpowell1830 on February 16, 2022, 12:41:51 am ---I think rankings of any sort are unnecessary, however, often the content of posts reveals a replyers credentials. Often there are posters that seem to throw in answers that show that they did not even read the OP. Also, there are at least 10 members that seem to reply to every post, sometimes with credulous answers, sometimes not. Then there are the essay posters that write 2 or 3 pages and, well, TLDR often. All of these may get to be called experts from these types of posts. Let the content of the posts reveal the truth, and as someone said, the newbies will need to learn discrimination. --- End quote --- As I watch the Beginner's forum, I see that there are usually several 'correct' answers, usually from slightly different viewpoints. Now, even a beginner should realize that if a half dozen people agree, the answer is probably correct. A few outliers don't really push things very far from the proper end result. It's rare that a question receives only one response. There is something wrong with the question should this occur. Sometimes answers are iterative. The first answer almost answers the question, the second improves upon the first and so on. By the end, the result is pretty good. Other times, the question really does have multiple 'correct' answers. Consider the open-ended question "Which chip should I buy to do this?" The first respondent will tout the chip he used for that application, the second respondent posts his solution and so on. There really isn't just one answer and it would be a darn shame if the Expert posted first with the only perceived correct answer and all the alternatives were never discussed. There are always alternatives! Sometimes 'best' is based on performance, other times on price and, these days, on availability (by country). There really isn't just a single correct answer. Multiple competing answers is a blessing, not a curse. |
| Bud:
--- Quote from: mawyatt on February 16, 2022, 03:28:45 am ---Maybe you should go over to the IEEE and find out what the membership actually is!!! It's composed of young students, undergraduates, graduate, post grads & professors alike, everyone is welcome, no degrees required!! However, they do demand a high level of credibility in papers that get published. --- End quote --- And to earn that credibility people publish same shit over and over and over again, with a few words changed. So they can put "made x publications" in their profile. |
| Siwastaja:
--- Quote from: rstofer on February 15, 2022, 09:46:38 pm ---FWIW, I don't like either of the Stack (Overflow or Exchange) sites I have run across. The 'leaders' are rude and condescending, something that doesn't happen around here very often. One thing I see over and over on the Stack... sites: "This question has been answered!" Of course it was 5 years ago and doesn't show up in a search because, well, search terms don't quite match. I don't waste my time on either site. The nice thing about eevBlog is that the threads tend to wander around a bit before coalescing. --- End quote --- These sites are fundamentally different. Stack Overflow/Exchange are question-answer services run by peers. EEVBlog forum is a discussion forum. It's a nice, even desirable side effect if the OP gets a straight answer to their exact question, but it's not the primary point. For the same reason, it's OK to post about something even if something very similar was discussed 2 years ago. We get totally different viewpoints as time goes by. |
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