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Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
T3sl4co1l:
--- Quote from: james_s on October 12, 2020, 05:31:03 pm ---This is something that has driven me crazy for as long as web browsers have been a thing. Whoever decided that the Backspace key should be overloaded to also trigger the Back navigation button should be hanged. Never once have I wanted to navigate back when I hit the backspace button, always I intended to backspace typing. SO many times I've tried to correct a typo in a form and had it navigate back and wipe out the entire form. It is bizarre that this infernal functionality is still a thing.
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Good news! Chrome "fixed" that some years ago. (And I forget about FF...or possibly, it's configurable enough that you can change it to whatever you like? I never checked.)
So then you have absolute troglodytes like me who use the Back to Backspace extension to turn it back on. ;D
Tim
ataradov:
I'm in the camp of backspace going back in history, so "Backspace to go Back" is the first extension I install on a fresh Chrome.
I can't remember when was the last time I went back from filling the form by mistake. And even if you do, forms remember what they had in them.
rsjsouza:
--- Quote from: james_s on October 12, 2020, 05:31:03 pm ---This is something that has driven me crazy for as long as web browsers have been a thing. Whoever decided that the Backspace key should be overloaded to also trigger the Back navigation button should be hanged. Never once have I wanted to navigate back when I hit the backspace button, always I intended to backspace typing. SO many times I've tried to correct a typo in a form and had it navigate back and wipe out the entire form. It is bizarre that this infernal functionality is still a thing.
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I am with you: I don't know what type of idiot thought this was a good idea.
--- Quote from: T3sl4co1l on October 13, 2020, 12:57:57 am ---Good news! Chrome "fixed" that some years ago. (And I forget about FF...or possibly, it's configurable enough that you can change it to whatever you like? I never checked.)
So then you have absolute troglodytes like me who use the Back to Backspace extension to turn it back on. ;D
Tim
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Tim, usually the "fix" is to change the default behaviour of the backspace key. However, from time to time I have seen regression failures on versions of Chrome and FF that flipped the default, only to my frustration after typing a damn form.
T3sl4co1l:
Ironically, it used to be a worse problem back in the day, when browsers didn't try very hard to remember the contents of a page.
Hell, nowadays I can type a reply, go back, have a power outage, boot back up, CTRL+SHIFT+T and be right back where I left off. The detail of page caching is astounding.
Anyway, I'm used to it, and do run afoul of it from time to time, but rarely lose data as a result. I can see perfectly clearly what an anti-pattern it is, and why it's good to migrate away from it.
Also the plugin solution isn't quite ideal, as it doesn't work on local pages (plugins in general are disabled on localhost, isn't it?). So when I'm testing my website I have to consciously remember to ALT+LEFT...
Tim
tooki:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on October 12, 2020, 07:45:01 pm ---
--- Quote from: ConKbot on October 11, 2020, 06:36:48 am ---This marketplace stuff needs to fuck off and die. After seeing newegg marketplace being full of stuff with scam prices, and listings and direct import tat labeled as "equivalent" or "compatible" or other similar ways to weasel into search results, I want nothing to do with 3rd parties selling components. If I wanted trash components labeled falsely, I'd stick with Amazon ebay or aliexpress.
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The last order I placed with Newegg, I didn't realize it was a "marketplace seller", the goods never arrived and I couldn't be bothered to chase it down for a $10 item at the time, too much going on, I just bought from eBay instead.
Basically, if Newegg and Digikey want to become the "electronics world Amazon" they have to be better than amazon, starting with the search function - which is truly terrible on Amazon and not great on eBay either.
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Agreed. Amazon’s search, for anything that’s not a book, movie, or CD, is abysmal.
Anyhow, I sent Digi-Key this feedback earlier today via their web form:
--- Quote --- What kind of feedback would you like to provide?
General or other Digi-Key feedback.
How can we improve your experience with Digi-Key Electronics?
Hi!
Please, please do not expand marketplace (in fact, I'd sooner not see it at all). So many websites do this now, but it undermines precisely why I go to a particular vendor: I want to order from *them*, not someone else. If I go to your website, it's because I want to buy from Digi-Key and not from somebody else. Price isn't the only thing that matters: if it were, I wouldn't be buying from you as often. (In the 10 months I've been at my current job, I've gotten us to now buy most of our components from you instead of others.) I like DK because you have a massive selection, hands-down the best parametric search of any electronics distributor, accurate stock info, and ship quickly and dependably to Switzerland with customs pre-cleared. Stock accuracy, shipping speed, and incoterms are things I don't want to have to evaluate (or take a risk on) with marketplace vendors.
I recognize and appreciate that at least you make it easy to exclude marketplace sellers (and that right now, they seem to be few and carefully selected), but I know I am far from alone in saying that as a customer, turning your store into a marketplace would make it massively less useful and less desirable to me. For example, I've nearly entirely stopped using Amazon (where you can't usually exclude marketplace sellers) because of this, because it simply takes far, far, far too much time to find a seller whose shipping to Switzerland is reasonable, and where I won't get hit with surprise customs fees.
Comparison websites exist already, so please, please, don't make Digi-Key into one as well. Because ultimately, when web stores morph into marketplaces, they tend to just become poorly curated comparison sites.
Respectfully, Antonio
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They responded within an hour or two:
--- Quote --- Hello Antonio,
Thank you for the feedback. Please rest assured that we have no plans to scale back our current business model and will continue to provide the same level of in stock products, ready to ship same day, directly from Digi-Key. The addition of Marketplace vendors is only intended to provide our customers with a wider catalog of products. The ability to filter these options out or avoid them altogether will be remaining in place.
If you have any further questions please let me know. Thank you.
[name]
Supervisor, Customer Experience
DIGI-KEY ELECTRONICS
[direct email]
[direct phone extension]
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