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Discussing the usage of the TEA thread
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beanflying:

--- Quote from: m k on August 24, 2022, 09:07:06 am ---snip

Since people as a group are not changing something else must.
Regular user reporting is also continuing its route, generally people will mind their own businesses too long, it may change for a moment but it wont last.
I've seen lieutenant moderator of sub-forum approaches but right minded folks are not so easy to find.
Forum informants then has a bit negative tone.

Here TEA thread was quite special in it self, being a community in a community, maybe even a bit deeper and very active.
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Sorry but you are quite wrong about 'the group not changing' it absolutely has changed. It had become increasingly a sort of personal sandbox for a small handful of members posting ostensibly dribble from their daily lives and is far from what it was a few years ago where an off topic 'interesting post' might get dropped once or twice a day if that.

Around 18 months ago a weekly Discord chat session was created as a weekly chewing the fat session for a more freeform chat on life the universe and everything rather than have those conversations in the thread. Interesting it may have actually had the reverse effect due to the conversation held there being more personal and really off topic rather than on TEA. I suspect the behaviour on Discord came back into the thread outside of that once a week session which might explain at least in part why this is a thing and the content had shifted so far and so often.

I seem to remember Specmaster (not singling him out other than it is clearly OT in the Forum but welcomed content) several years ago being concerned about posting Aircraft shots to much but as a group the response was generally hey cool nice shots every month or so when added. Saskia's Pinball restorations and Rocket hobby was likewise a welcome intrusion from time to time as well. I was as guilty of posting off topic a bit too but it wasn't I hate my Boss/Job/Life or my left butt cheek hurts either ;)

There is no hidden agendas here or people seeking to 'control' anything other than keeping the basic thread back toward what it used to be with less fluff and padding. I can't think of anyone that has contributed to the TEA thread over time that would want ALL off topic content removed or banned either often they are the good or memorable bits.

Much as Bitseeker the originator seems to think other alternates are needed the conversation he and I had today was more along the lines of it used to be great and in balance but it currently is not, anything more on this he can speak to if he wants apart from me paraphrasing our private conversation.

One persistent issue is 'effective content loss' in the mega thread in particular where a full rebuild of item X over a month is buried in it rather than a thread getting created and linked initially and maybe linked later when finished. Even using Google as a search engine (because SMF search sucks) finding contents or a specific topic from a year ago is a tough call because of the way content gets indexed and ranked without appropriate content headers.
Cerebus:

--- Quote from: beanflying on August 24, 2022, 03:04:58 am ---
--- Quote from: Cerebus on August 23, 2022, 08:37:28 pm ---
--- Quote from: sokoloff on August 23, 2022, 08:31:00 pm ---Anyone have any ideas or examples why moderating forums like this is such a thankless PITA?

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Look at the message directly above yours.

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Why don't you do as threatened on discord after 'I don't know whether to go and see what's happening or just leave them until the tumbleweeds start rolling and pop up with a snide remark.' then just stay there you pompous windbag! You are out of order thinking you have ANY moral grounds to critique other members opinions here based on yours and the other dribble there.

The recent 'content' in the main reads like a primary school boys conversation at lunchtime figuring out who to beat up after school. I am staggered that collectively the 4 or 5 of you would have the gall to post here ever again after some of the utter trash typed and accusations and slagging off about Gnif in particular but also Dave and Halcyon.

The juvenile behaviour in totally AND WILLFULLY ignoring Dave and other Mods posts in the TEA thread from what was a few weeks ago now has led to this and the noise ratio has been increasing since to try and make some sort of point about 'our playpen and our rules'. This like all forums is not a democracy and has rules which 'in general' are evenly applied.

That said from when I first dropped in to the TEA thread 4 or 5 years ago there was ALWAYS a percentage of Off Topic when something in one of our lives cropped up that we thought others might find interesting or amusing. TEA or Electronics was always at 80% at a guess. It has descended to likely well under 50% as some have chosen to treat it like a chat group on their daily lives.

No I haven't reported ANYONE or ANYTHING in the TEA thread and until the BS of a few weeks ago was brought to my attention afterward by another member hadn't wasted my life sifting through the weeds for months.

This is a thing CAUSED by a few who couldn't pull their heads in not some sort of heavy handed policing issue.

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Please don't attribute by implication to me things said by other people. And the one bit that you have accurately attributed to me I did say in Discord, not here. You're the one being deliberately inflammatory by posting stuff from people blowing off steam on Discord but who didn't post it here. Where's that moral high ground of yours now? I suspect that you've just burned bridges with some people who previously spoke quite well of you.
Halcyon:
I fully support Geoff in the way he has handled things. I challenge anyone else to do better (and deal with the constant reports we get from users).

For those of you who are supporters, my post earlier is relevant: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/supporters-lounge/i-am-missing-something/msg4377916/#msg4377916
beanflying:

--- Quote from: Cerebus on August 24, 2022, 10:54:20 am ---
Please don't attribute by implication to me things said by other people. And the one bit that you have accurately attributed to me I did say in Discord, not here. You're the one being deliberately inflammatory by posting stuff from people blowing off steam on Discord but who didn't post it here. Where's that moral high ground of yours now? I suspect that you've just burned bridges with some people who previously spoke quite well of you.

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As Discord is linked in the opening part of the TEA thread and has been actively promoted by the members I regard this by extension content relevant to here and it is PUBLIC. You don't get to shit stir there then appear here to take pot shots at other members while claiming innocence.


--- Quote ---My comments in the discussion about TEA thread are real BTW, I have struggled to find anything outside the TEA thread worth reading or engaging in. The same old twats picking pointless "not listening, here's my opinion" arguments - memberA and Member B andblog, someone etc. etc. and fuck all actual electronics content.
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You are the one burning bridges HERE along with others which is childish over the inability to keep somewhere near on topic.
pcprogrammer:

--- Quote from: Halcyon on August 24, 2022, 11:22:24 am ---I fully support Geoff in the way he has handled things. I challenge anyone else to do better (and deal with the constant reports we get from users).

For those of you who are supporters, my post earlier is relevant: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/supporters-lounge/i-am-missing-something/msg4377916/#msg4377916

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I thought about pointing that one out with the suggestion that the relevant post, if possible, are moved to this thread, but probably a bit late now.

It probably is part of the emerging of this thread, and set things in its place a bit.

Edit: Inserted the quote to make clear what I refer to
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