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| gnif:
--- Quote from: Per Hansson on August 24, 2022, 05:48:38 pm --- --- Quote from: gnif on August 23, 2022, 04:41:39 pm --- --- Quote from: Zoli on August 23, 2022, 04:38:11 pm --- --- Quote from: gnif on August 23, 2022, 04:08:39 pm ---In hindsight this thread should not be locked yet, discussion needs to be open for suggestions on how weto proceed with the TEA thread here. Unlocked :) --- End quote --- Options which I see: 1. Held in place, try to keep on topic - it will lose a lot of the current spirit. 2. Move to general technical chat, and leave a link in the sticky place - this way I see a better chance to keep the original/current spirit. 3.-x... Once the choices are clear, maybe put up to vote? --- End quote --- I personally like #2 --- End quote --- Just a friendly warning from a fellow forum moderator: be careful about moving that thread without first having a full database backup. It has issues already due to its size: trying to use the "print preview" causes a HTTP 500 error. It would be a tremendous shame to loose the thread due to some database problem if it was attempted to be moved and that failed! --- End quote --- Thanks, the 500 error is due to a timeout trying to put all the posts onto a single page. Moving a thread otoh is as simple as changing the thread's parent ID in the first post in the database, it's a reference to the parent, it doesn't actually move anything. As for backups, they are done daily to an offsite secure location, the data is protected even if the hosting provider has another fire. |
| Specmaster:
--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on August 23, 2022, 12:36:58 pm ---Well then the ones that don't complain know they have to be more on topic, because it is them the others are complaining about. >:D I myself only briefly went into the thread, because of some "off topic" interest and went out again because of the warnings to stay on topic. As I'm not a real collector of vintage or modern test equipment, the on topic stuff does not interest me that much. And Squarewave does have a point that following a specific topic about some cool piece of equipment is not simple. But in light of the title of the thread it should not be about the fixing of the equipment, but about the getting it and the possible problems surrounding it. Think therapy. The more technical stuff, in my opinion, should go in separate dedicated threads, so that any one interested in that specific piece of equipment can easily follow what is being done. Take from it what you will, just my 2 cents worth --- End quote --- In many cases that is precisely what was done, there are many dedicated threads that are duplicated in the TEA thread and using the search tool will enable these threads to be found if you are working on "XYZ" item, searching for that item will reveal the locations. You have to remember that these repairs can and do often take many days or even weeks with long gaps between postings so anyone following a long protracted repair thread in TEA section would have to skip past many postings and many pages to find all the postings. The clue is in the title "Test Equipment Anonymous", it is more of a self-help group for those that are addicted to collecting old test equipment. Think of it in the same vein as Alcoholics Anonymous and Gamblers Anonymous, this is explained on pages 1 and 2 of the thread and the threads adopted song was Hotel California by the Eagles and the following is a direct quote from Page 1 of the thread, January 16, 2017, "TEA Anthem "...Mirrors on the ceiling, and pink champagne on ice. Then she said, 'We are all just prisoners here; of our own device...'" (Hotel California video removed since YouTube keeps deleting them) "...'Relax' said the night man, 'We are programmed to receive. You can check out any time you like, But you can never leave...'" The obvious connection here is that it is an addiction, hence the lyrics fit our addiction situation. So it would seem that people have latched onto "Test Gear" and have completely dismissed from their minds the "Anonymous" part of the title and apparently never bothered to look any further than what the current page number was. |
| Vince:
--- Quote from: gnif on August 24, 2022, 05:50:46 pm --- --- Quote from: Per Hansson on August 24, 2022, 05:48:38 pm --- --- Quote from: gnif on August 23, 2022, 04:41:39 pm --- --- Quote from: Zoli on August 23, 2022, 04:38:11 pm --- --- Quote from: gnif on August 23, 2022, 04:08:39 pm ---In hindsight this thread should not be locked yet, discussion needs to be open for suggestions on how weto proceed with the TEA thread here. Unlocked :) --- End quote --- Options which I see: 1. Held in place, try to keep on topic - it will lose a lot of the current spirit. 2. Move to general technical chat, and leave a link in the sticky place - this way I see a better chance to keep the original/current spirit. 3.-x... Once the choices are clear, maybe put up to vote? --- End quote --- I personally like #2 --- End quote --- Just a friendly warning from a fellow forum moderator: be careful about moving that thread without first having a full database backup. It has issues already due to its size: trying to use the "print preview" causes a HTTP 500 error. It would be a tremendous shame to loose the thread due to some database problem if it was attempted to be moved and that failed! --- End quote --- [...] Moving a thread otoh is as simple as changing the thread's parent ID in the first post in the database, it's a reference to the parent, it doesn't actually move anything. --- End quote --- Great to hear ! Let's do that then, let's move TEA to a different part of the forum where the OT stuff would not be frown upon, and in 5 minutes TEA can resume business as usual with the peace of mind that if anyone ever complains about OT stuff, he can be legitimately told to get lost. Or just edit the title of the thread to " TEA chat room, OT inside ", and that's all..... or do both, I don't know.... I don't see the need for all the drama that's been going on last night. Only problem I see here, is some people complaining about OT stuff. So let's just make it so that OT now becomes "legal" and problem gone. Those who want an actual, dry, technical, dull boring thread are of course most welcome to start a new thread of their own.... how is that difficult ? I am sure there are tens of threads being created every day on this forum (well I guess... ), so it's not like this would be a major event... This takes only 5 minutes to solve, click, click click and click click click click... something like that, I don't know I am no forum admin... but surely renaming and moving a thread is basic stuff for any forum software, I would think ! So let's do that and resume our TEA activities.... shall we ? Please ? ;D Thanks in advance ! ;D :-+ |
| gnif:
--- Quote from: Vince on August 24, 2022, 06:06:59 pm --- --- Quote from: gnif on August 24, 2022, 05:50:46 pm --- --- Quote from: Per Hansson on August 24, 2022, 05:48:38 pm --- --- Quote from: gnif on August 23, 2022, 04:41:39 pm --- --- Quote from: Zoli on August 23, 2022, 04:38:11 pm --- --- Quote from: gnif on August 23, 2022, 04:08:39 pm ---In hindsight this thread should not be locked yet, discussion needs to be open for suggestions on how weto proceed with the TEA thread here. Unlocked :) --- End quote --- Options which I see: 1. Held in place, try to keep on topic - it will lose a lot of the current spirit. 2. Move to general technical chat, and leave a link in the sticky place - this way I see a better chance to keep the original/current spirit. 3.-x... Once the choices are clear, maybe put up to vote? --- End quote --- I personally like #2 --- End quote --- Just a friendly warning from a fellow forum moderator: be careful about moving that thread without first having a full database backup. It has issues already due to its size: trying to use the "print preview" causes a HTTP 500 error. It would be a tremendous shame to loose the thread due to some database problem if it was attempted to be moved and that failed! --- End quote --- [...] Moving a thread otoh is as simple as changing the thread's parent ID in the first post in the database, it's a reference to the parent, it doesn't actually move anything. --- End quote --- Great to hear ! Let's do that then, let's move TEA to a different part of the forum where the OT stuff would not be frown upon, and in 5 minutes TEA can resume business as usual with the peace of mind that if anyone ever complains about OT stuff, he can be legitimately told to get lost. Or just edit the title of the thread to " TEA chat room, OT inside ", and that's all..... or do both, I don't know.... I don't see the need for all the drama that's been going on last night. Only problem I see here, is some people complaining about OT stuff. So let's just make it so that OT now becomes "legal" and problem gone. Those who want an actual, dry, technical, dull boring thread are of course most welcome to start a new thread of their own.... how is that difficult ? I am sure there are tens of threads being created every day on this forum (well I guess... ), so it's not like this would be a major event... This takes only 5 minutes to solve, click, click click and click click click click... something like that, I don't know I am no forum admin... but surely renaming and moving a thread is basic stuff for any forum software, I would think ! So let's do that and resume our TEA activities.... shall we ? Please ? ;D Thanks in advance ! ;D :-+ --- End quote --- Sorry don't take my comment as a decision to do so... as I stated I am staying out of these decisions and leaving it up to Dave and the other still active mods to come to a head on how to proceed. Once they do if my assistance is required from an admin POV I will do what needs to be done. |
| Specmaster:
--- Quote from: Cerebus on August 23, 2022, 07:58:01 pm --- --- Quote from: pcprogrammer on August 23, 2022, 07:13:18 pm --- --- Quote from: Neper on August 23, 2022, 07:07:42 pm ---First he blows everything up, then he resigns and now he wants to apologise. All this in less than 24 hours. What a remarkable achievement. How about a jolly leaving do in the garden of No. 10? --- End quote --- Is this really necessary? --- End quote --- Possibly not, but I think we're going to have to make some allowances here. There are some people very angry with gnif and biting their tongues to not be as vituperative in here as they'd like to be. Gnif has gone at the thread like a bull in a china shop, while admitting that he's not really familiar with the thread but has still charged on recklessly. So recklessly that, realising what he has done, he has felt it necessary to give up his moderating privileges. That leaves the people who care about that thread, some of them deeply, to pick up the broken pieces from the floor. So if some those people's anger and frustration leaks out then I think we have to cut them some slack. --- End quote --- Totally agree, many of us have been here almost from day one and have built the thread upto to being the force and size that it currently is and it has to be a significant part of why advertisers continue supporting the forum as a whole, many other forums would kill for the exposure this forum enjoys but if it continues along the path it has taken the last few days, that exposure will whither and that would be a real shame |
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