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Discussing the usage of the TEA thread
Brumby:
--- Quote from: tggzzz on August 24, 2022, 07:53:56 pm ---So I don't think merely moving the thread to a different part of the forum will solve this.
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I agree.
The TEA thread is defined by its content, not its location.
Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: Brumby on August 25, 2022, 04:17:38 am ---
The Mods had nothing to do with the root cause. They were presented with a situation which they were obligated to deal with. It's that simple.
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Having been around the SMF-style forums even before social media borked it all proper, I've found the need to have a social area is such a contentious issue. The smaller Linux distro 'support' sites have all tried and tried to walk the line in providing a social area. Keeping a herd of cranky Linux dudes all chill wasn't for the faint of heart.
What I can say is, as awful as it seems, it is good that there is at least a few different passionate viewpoints, none of those printed above being surprising to me BTW.
Brumby:
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on August 25, 2022, 06:16:21 am ---What I can say is, a awful as it seems, it is good that there is at least a few different passionate viewpoints, none of those printed above being surprising to me BTW.
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That doesn't sound awful at all ... at least to me.
** I have always held that everyone's opinion is worth listening to - including those who come from an ideologically foreign perspective to one's own. They may still have a point or two that are worth considering. Even if they don't, having differing - or even extreme - viewpoints helps define reference points to allow us to see how our opinions fit into the bigger picture.
(** I expressed this in an article which was published in EA some time last millennium.)
Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: Brumby on August 25, 2022, 07:13:05 am ---
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on August 25, 2022, 06:16:21 am ---What I can say is, a awful as it seems, it is good that there is at least a few different passionate viewpoints, none of those printed above being surprising to me BTW.
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That doesn't sound awful at all ... at least to me.
** I have always held that everyone's opinion is worth listening to - including those who come from an ideologically foreign perspective to one's own. They may still have a point or two that are worth considering. Even if they don't, having differing - or even extreme - viewpoints helps define reference points to allow us to see how our opinions fit into the bigger picture.
(** I expressed this in an article which was published in EA some time last millennium.)
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Sorry. I didn't express myself sufficiently. It's when the conversion stops that's the worry.
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: Brumby on August 25, 2022, 04:17:38 am ---I would also like to add that the whole band of discussion that is currently flying around citing chapter and verse on various interpretations is not very well grounded in the relevant facts - again, IMHO. The TEA thread developed a unique culture through common interests, time, interaction and finding its own way. Looking back at it all and trying to apply legislative thinking to something that grew organically will generate futile discussions and is just a waste of time. Fine for people who want to say something - but the fundamental problem there is trying to box up something that is, essentially, nebulous.
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Just so.
--- Quote ---The Mods had nothing to do with the root cause. They were presented with a situation which they were obligated to deal with. It's that simple.
We do not know the pressures brought upon them in the beginning - how many reports or other communications were made nor the content of such. I imagine there may have been everything from quiet requests to angry demands and personal attacks. But they then need to look past the emotion and work out how best to deal with the situation.
Some of you armchair warriors will have strong opinions on what should have been done - but you certainly will not have all the information and only a number of you will have the skills and, even less, the experience to act with any level of objectivity. Could the Mods have done things differently? Possibly. Could you have done any better? I doubt it ... and, yes, I know some will take offence at that - but they are the ones I wouldn't want anywhere near the moderator button.
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Again, yes, particularly that last sentence.
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