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Squarewave:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on August 26, 2022, 03:48:36 pm ---
There is certainly feeling that some people remaining on this forum "gamed" the reporting and moderation mechanism to change the thread away from therapy. I'm agnostic, but it can't be dismissed out of hand.

Personally I have a dislike for situations in which newcomers waltz into a situation and decide they don't like the situation and will therefore agitate to change it to suit themselves. Doubly so if it isn't done in public but is done by behind the scenes complaints to mummy/daddy/deity/HumanResources/whatever. I've seen that kind of thing happen in many spheres, including religious/cultural organisations, workplaces, political organisations, and social clubs. The resulting schisms are always unpleasant and have unpleasant consequences.


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Yes I've seen in IO, where a few people suggested it was all down to me. If it were me, I hardly think the mods here are going to take 'drastic' action just because one person didn't like it. Many people have said here that it got 'too off topic', not just me. My suggestion that it went far isn't as someone put it "a recent post from him to the effect that he did complain"- 'to the effect' isn't the same thing. Even one of those who have left here for IO has said himself that "it was difficult finding references to things I did only a week or two previously", so there you go, does that mean he complained? Or just as I've said and a few others, things were getting buried in too much OT, pages of it.

One even described be as having a "trollish, combative attitude" - but if you've been told by the mods to stop wandering off topic and you continue to do so, that would be the more likely to be seen as a 'trollish, combative attitude', rather than others who've just discussed TE. Yes, as one quite rightly pointed out, I've not been as active in the TEA thread as others, so?

At the end of the day, it was the trollish, combative attitude which sadly lead to what happened, the constant flouting of the rules set by the mods, the arguing with the mods and other general behaviour patterns. Singling out one person who 'appears to relish' in what has happened, isn't going to change that it was likely quite a lot of people who complained sufficiently for the mods to take action and even then, if the mods take action the way they did, it's because they saw it fit to do so, they're hardly going to be directed by one or ten or even one hundred people.

No one has, as one put it "lost their happy home", they decided to leave when they couldn't win an argument with the mods about how they want their forum to be run, very combative, quite. No one is saying that they can't leave, but have a more positive reason for doing so rather than look to proportion blame. If the off topicness, denigrating other people is what they want, then great, they've found somewhere for it, be happy!
Ice-Tea:

--- Quote from: Squarewave on August 26, 2022, 05:03:32 pm ---No one has, as one put it "lost their happy home", they decided to leave when they couldn't win an argument with the mods about how they want their forum to be run, very combative, quite. No one is saying that they can't leave, but have a more positive reason for doing so rather than look to proportion blame. If the off topicness, denigrating other people is what they want, then great, they've found somewhere for it, be happy!

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I kept mostly aside in this discussion aside from sharing my point of view in a ,I hope, constructive manner.

But to this I must object. I haven't decided to leave and I won't but, if you want to put it like that, my "happy home" is gone or has at least changed forever. I couldn't care less about proportioning blame but the notion that nothing really changes except for some perceived hotheads the forum is better off without is wrong. Period. Point final.
Squarewave:

--- Quote from: Ice-Tea on August 26, 2022, 05:28:33 pm ---I kept mostly aside in this discussion aside from sharing my point of view in a ,I hope, constructive manner.

But to this I must object. I haven't decided to leave and I won't but, if you want to put it like that, my "happy home" is gone or has at least changed forever. I couldn't care less about proportioning blame but the notion that nothing really changes except for some perceived hotheads the forum is better off without is wrong. Period. Point final.

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For your objections, let's be clear, I was quoting what others have said. And quite, not everyone has left, no one has to.
Ice-Tea:

--- Quote from: Squarewave on August 26, 2022, 05:35:47 pm ---For your objections, let's be clear, I was quoting what others have said. And quite, not everyone has left, no one has to.

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Your missing the point (deliberately or not) in spectacular fashion.
Squarewave:

--- Quote from: Ice-Tea on August 26, 2022, 05:41:06 pm ---
--- Quote from: Squarewave on August 26, 2022, 05:35:47 pm ---For your objections, let's be clear, I was quoting what others have said. And quite, not everyone has left, no one has to.

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Your missing the point (deliberately or not) in spectacular fashion.

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No, I'm not. I think we probably have our own opinion, which is fine.

But if I am missing your point, try another way and see if we come across clearer to each other?
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