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gnif:
Thanks mate for that.

One thing I would like to point out for one particular person that keeps stating that the "new moderation is purely a management decision intended to whitewash the forum to improve YT/Google metrics".

I have not received ANY direction from Dave to try to do such at thing. The only thing that I am aware of with regards to how we were operating as moderators changed was starting to make better use of SMF and to be careful not to step on each others toes when an issue was already being handled. Simply better coordination between us as moderators.

As for improving metrics... I really don't get how anyone could think this, and I am not even sure how whitewashing the forums could lead to this. I mean, we'd have to literally start fresh and wipe the forums clean if we were doing such a thing. Those claiming we were doing this are just showing their own paranoia and ignorance.


--- Quote from: GreyWoolfe ---The mere fact that 15 people could completely derail a thread the size of TEA, seems a bit disturbing.
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Where does this number come from? I don't recall ever publishing the count. I do recall publishing a rough number of reports we were getting. The fact that my mail box was continually filling with more and more TEA reports for off-topic content. Do note we have been having such reports for years, and for the most part they were ignored due to the nature of that thread. Once we started seeing a large uptick in the number of reports and who was reporting it was clear that something needed to be done. Stop making false claims that it was some small group trying to cause issues, or lurkers... quite a few of the reports were from your own members against each other who are now calling foul on acting on said reports.

Move on people! It's done, finished, stop trying to play the blame game.
Per Hansson:

--- Quote from: gnif on August 27, 2022, 05:31:23 am ---
--- Quote from: GreyWoolfe ---The mere fact that 15 people could completely derail a thread the size of TEA, seems a bit disturbing.
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Where does this number come from? I don't recall ever publishing the count. I do recall publishing a rough number of reports we were getting.
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I guess it is from here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/discussing-the-usage-of-the-tea-thread/msg4376107/#msg4376107


--- Quote from: gnif on August 23, 2022, 01:20:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: david77 on August 23, 2022, 01:18:30 pm ---Can you quantify a "lot"? Complainers as well as thankers?

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No complainers, many frequent (15+ so far) users with 1000+ posts explaining their desire to see this resolved.

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tggzzz:

--- Quote from: gnif on August 27, 2022, 05:31:23 am ---Thanks mate for that.
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--- Quote from: GreyWoolfe ---The mere fact that 15 people could completely derail a thread the size of TEA, seems a bit disturbing.
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Where does this number come from? I don't recall ever publishing the count.
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Move on people! It's done, finished, stop trying to play the blame game.

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Just so.

Schisms happen in all walks of life. There is too much hyperventilating all round, but that is to be expected and will fade.

As for the number of 15, it is a case of "send reinforcements we're going to advance" being transmitted over several noise phone lines and emerging as "send three and fourpence, we're going to a dance". (Note to youngsters and foreigners, "three and fourpence" is the pre-decimal UK currency derived from the Carolingian monetary system, written as 3/4 or 3s 4d.)

I'll note that several people have written that, in their opinion, you came out of this relatively well.
Brumby:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on August 27, 2022, 08:22:18 am ---
--- Quote from: gnif on August 27, 2022, 05:31:23 am ---Move on people! It's done, finished, stop trying to play the blame game.

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Just so.

Schisms happen in all walks of life. There is too much hyperventilating all round, but that is to be expected and will fade.

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I will go a step further and say there is little (if anything) to gain by attempting to do an autopsy on details that are not (and should not) be publicly available, especially when speculation, fabrication and possible deliberate misinformation starts getting into mainstream discussion.  Having a deliberate falsehood initiate a narrative which generates discussion is a waste of time.  People spending their time addressing it only lends credibility to it.  That stuff needs to left in the sun to die.

At this point, the TEA thread is a space that is still recovering from shock - and it is my firm belief that people be allowed to approach it once again when they feel comfortable.  Currently, I get the feeling that there is a sense of taboo.  There is nothing sinister to be found there - except for the possibility of SJW's hovering over the report button.  However, on that score, we still have moderators who assess those reports, so it isn't a turkey shoot.

A lot of the discussion I've seen here has had more awkwardness because of imperfect communication than any conflict of opinion.  This is something we have all had some degree of experience, since the "off the cuff" written word isn't always 100% precise - especially with a truly international assembly such as the EEVblog.


IMO, the sooner we put this event into the History books and move on, the better.  Forget it? Absolutely not - but we shouldn't dwell on it too much.
tautech:

--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on August 26, 2022, 11:55:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: tautech ---We're a newbie until 5 posts are reached but at 5 can we judge a newbie to have sufficient experience here to report those with say 10k posts under their belt ?
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Does quantity trump quality, then?
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Of course, everyone need learn their way just like displaying an L in a car window.

--- Quote ---Is it impossible for someone to ever have a good opinion if it's different to someone with, say, 10 posts more?
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Not impossible however with considerably less credibility than a member with 100+.


--- Quote ---Just how many posts does it take to be accepted as an equal here?
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Each are judged or fucking should be on their content and capability as a member here, that is those that show they obviously can distinguish the wood from the Treez.
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