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capt bullshot:
I'm the author of that "unrelated two videos" post and was just notified of it's deletion.
I'm kind of annoyed, because such posts (in small doses, as my usual Signal to noise ratio is) make up the "Fun" part of this thread.
Otherwise, "I don't mind at all" (as my posted video "Great song of indifference"  by Bod Geldof says). It was my reaction expressing my opinion to some other offensive posts by others before. I can easily ignore such posts, and try to show my opinion in a ironic way. At least a few apparently understood the message, that's what makes me post such stuff occasionally.
Now I'm annoyed because this post got deleted, but not the others causing my reaction - the moderator should have read a bit more and thought about what to do for fairness' sake. Either delete all of the related posts or none.

This (moderators) behaviour might be an example (that surely isn't applicable for all inhabitants of the TEA thread) what causes people to leave this thread. Otherwise, I'm not here to analyze people or force everyone to obey the rules by the word, I just want to have some fun. So one rule should exist "Never offend another person directly and in public". One should extend this to ban politics discussions, as these have quite a potential to create endless discussions or personal offense. Anything else (as long as it isn't illegal content that could cause issues to the forum owner) doesn't harm - at least as long it's not too excessive. One off-topic post in relation to some previous post(s) - I don't consider this excessive.

Brumby:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on August 28, 2022, 11:14:55 am ---So based on my (very) limited experience in the thead, it seems to be natually mostly on-topic. Am I completely wrong and it's actually been invested with gun and covid talk and music videos for years?

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As someone who has been following the TEA thread for quite some time - no, you are not wrong.  Music videos do show up but are not usually pervasive, Covid talk is not much more than "I've got it" with a couple of well wishing responses and gun talk does not last long at all - whether by Moderator or member response.  Sometimes there is a bit of a reaction, but it usually settles down fairly quickly.

The problem is when the stretching goes from 3 or 4 posts to 3 or 4 pages with recalcitrant participants - which is what I (and many others) saw happening.

Now, because this "stretching of the boundaries" has been around for so long, getting militant in the moderation is not going to work.  We have already seen the response to that idea.


I would hope we could get back to that place where members were more considerate than selfish.
EEVblog:

--- Quote from: capt bullshot on August 28, 2022, 11:30:04 am ---I'm the author of that "unrelated two videos" post and was just notified of it's deletion.
I'm kind of annoyed, because such posts (in small doses, as my usual Signal to noise ratio is) make up the "Fun" part of this thread.
Otherwise, "I don't mind at all" (as my posted video "Great song of indifference"  by Bod Geldof says). It was my reaction expressing my opinion to some other offensive posts by others before. I can easily ignore such posts, and try to show my opinion in a ironic way. At least a few apparently understood the message, that's what makes me post such stuff occasionally.
Now I'm annoyed because this post got deleted, but not the others causing my reaction - the moderator should have read a bit more and thought about what to do for fairness' sake. Either delete all of the related posts or none.

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The problem with videos is that they take up huge amounts of visual space on the forum.
What if everyone started posting videos in response to a post just to "show my opinion in a ironic way"? The thread would be disaster. Is that want you want? Really?
We are not going to delete every single off-topic post that is insanity and would literally be a full time job for someone.
Why post the videos instead of simply using the emojies?
Or better yet, why respond at all to as you say "offensive posts by others". Why not just ignore and lead by example by postign on-topic stuff.


--- Quote ---One off-topic post in relation to some previous post(s) - I don't consider this excessive.
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Neither do we, this literally happens dozens or even a hundred times a day on the forum. But come on, posting music videos to show your emotional reaction to an "offensive" post? Seriosuly? I can only see this as being part of the problem.
Does anyone here agree this is good for the foum?  :-// (serious question, I'd put a poll if I could)
PA0PBZ:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on August 28, 2022, 11:39:10 am ---The problem with videos is that they take up huge amounts of visual space on the forum.


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Maybe off topic but now you mention it: what really takes up a huge amount of space is quoting a meter long post just to add one sentence! IMO that's much worse than posting a video, and a video is much easier to skip than a totally unnecessary multi-screen long quote. Yeah, as you can see it's been annoying me for a long time. I'll  :-X now.

Edit to clarify, this is not directed at you but at stuff happening often in the TEA thread.
Brumby:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on August 28, 2022, 11:39:10 am ---Or better yet, why respond at all to as you say "offensive posts by others". Why not just ignore and lead by example by postign on-topic stuff.

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That is what does work - and it works well ... when people have the self discipline.
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