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Discussing the usage of the TEA thread
Brumby:
--- Quote from: tautech on August 28, 2022, 09:16:26 pm ---And a poll, seriously and after the fact. ::)
And you think poll results are to be a true and accurate representation of members views ?
A week ago it sure would have been a fine idea but now the horse has bolted after excessive use of the whip.
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I think now is the most appropriate time to ask the question.
We have had an incident which has brought it all into the forefront of our thinking, with real examples and hard decisions being made. Before this, I think you would have gotten an overwhelming response that the Mods were doing a great job ... because there wasn't much to judge.
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: xrunner on August 28, 2022, 10:31:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on August 28, 2022, 10:23:33 pm ---Forums which prevent nested quotes also prevent discussion of subtle points where the context matters.
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You mean in your opinion. In my opinion it doesn't. :) Nothing prevents your discussion of subtle points except you.
--- Quote ---I've tried forums without nested quotes, and stopped using them because the threads can only contain trivial information and are fundamentally boring. Prime example: edaboard. Secondary example: stackexchange, which is only useful for "how do I turn the rubbat 64 degrees clockwise in Squirdle v4.3?"
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I disagree. You just have to want to do a little more work instead of being lazy like you did in your response. Nested quoting is most often IMHO an act of laziness. All that has been written before is in the thread to be read. If you want people to read non-trivial responses work at it.
See what I mean - I did just what I wanted exactly and precisely without nested quoting like you did in your response. :-+
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Oh. Good. Grief.
Someone positing that because a tool can be used poorly, such a tool has no benefits and hence everybody should be prevented using it wisely.
Plus someone who asserts a different tool is good, without also mentioning the limited conditions under which that is true.
I expect better from you.
Brumby:
Upon reflection, I should probably have saved my observations about the poll until it had been closed. As it stands, I have provided information that may influence people before they cast their vote, thus skewing the result. This is exactly the reason why you have to vote before you can see the result. (I suppose another reason is to garner votes: You want to see? Vote first!)
Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: Brumby on August 29, 2022, 12:05:29 am ---Upon reflection, I should probably have saved my observations about the poll until it had been closed. As it stands, I have provided information that may influence people before they cast their vote, thus skewing the result. This is exactly the reason why you have to vote before you can see the result. (I suppose another reason is to garner votes: You want to see? Vote first!)
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Hmm. Interfering with votes.
Hang him!
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on August 28, 2022, 11:51:14 am ---Poll:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/tea-moderation-poll/
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Polls are a very blunt tool, that often obscure more than they reveal.
The results are often misinterpreted, or even actively misused. A classic problem "the tyranny of the majority", where the opinion of the majority is used as justification for stomping on the minority.
For the avoidance of doubt, I know that is not your intention. But there is a lot of hyperventilating at the moment, and the results could be misinterpreted by such people.
Hence I will not take part in the poll, and have no idea whether the results concur or conflict with my views.
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