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| Halcyon:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on August 29, 2022, 06:09:06 am --- --- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on August 29, 2022, 06:06:12 am ---I've only ever seen you move mountains to try and accommodate people on here. --- End quote --- I literally created a cooking section because a few people wanted it. --- End quote --- Sorry, you can blame that one on me. |
| AVGresponding:
Good grief, this thread is moving as fast as the pre-Moderated TEA thread... :-DD --- Quote from: EEVblog on August 29, 2022, 01:31:44 am --- --- Quote from: gnif on August 29, 2022, 01:10:50 am ---I would like to point out something here as some are not voting (as stated on the new TEA forum) with the rationale that the moderators can see who voted. 1) Obviously the database needs to record who voted to prevent double votes and to allow you to retract your vote. 2) SMF does not provide a way for the moderators to see who voted, period. In fact, even the SMF admin can not even access this information. 3) While I as the server admin (not SMF admin) could go into the database and figure out how to pull this data, I couldn't be less interested in doing so, I have better things to spend my time on. 4) Dave can request this information which is within his rights as the server owner, however in the 8 years I have been here, to date, Dave has never made such a request. --- End quote --- Correct, I cannot see who voted. There is no mechanism inside SMF for me to see this, and I have never made a request to attempt to do this, ever. And obviously I'm too dumb with computers to go into the SQL database and search for and figure out how the data is mapped and try to decode it etc. Probably needs a siginifcant amount of work with scripts or something. In short, your poll data is very anonymous. --- End quote --- In some ways I'd prefer it to be an open poll, so we could see where everyone stands. After all it's not a vote for President of (insert fake democracy of choice), where voting for the wrong option could get you imprisoned or worse. FWIW my vote went to "Too much, back off a bit", as being the closest to my feelings on the matter; though I agree the off-topic was getting out of hand, I think it could have been handled more diplomatically. If my account gets deleted and I end up imprisoned or worse, I may have to reassess my opinion... :-DD I agree with the opinion that making the thread a sticky was a mistake, though how much of the current problematic situation is due to that would be pure speculation. I would agree that seeing a topic at the top of the sticky list might lend it an official status it (in this case) definitely did not warrant. By and large it moved fast enough to more or less stick itself to the top of the unstickied posts anyway. I disagree that all the people that decided to leave are "full of shit". I think there have been some overreactions (on both sides), which some people seem to feel unable to step back from, for reasons of embarrassment or pride or whatever, I don't know, I'm not inside their heads. The idea that the backups being made of the TEA thread is part of a plan to leave EEVBlog forum and burn down the house afterwards is as ridiculous as the idea that the Modpocalypse© event is part of some plan of Dave's to "improve the metrics". If Dave were about that, I'd expect the various threads discussing the appalling state of Keysight customer relations and the rubbish input protection and range switches of their DMMs would also be removed/censored; after all, Keysight are one of the headline advertisers here. I remain hopeful that there can be a reasonable outcome to all this. |
| bsfeechannel:
--- Quote from: BU508A on August 29, 2022, 07:33:32 am --- --- Quote from: pcprogrammer on August 29, 2022, 06:39:09 am ---I also had a bit of a feeling that others where not that welcome in the TEA thread, but that could be just me. --- End quote --- That is not true. Whenever (mostly) someone new showed up and introduced himself he got a nice welcome there. I'd never the impression, that somebody wouldn't be welcome to TEA. --- End quote --- Yeah. But don't you find it strange that a forum member gets welcomed to whatever thread? As long as you follow the forum rules that should be taken for granted, shouldn't it? |
| Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on August 29, 2022, 09:16:57 am --- --- Quote from: BU508A on August 29, 2022, 07:33:32 am --- --- Quote from: pcprogrammer on August 29, 2022, 06:39:09 am ---I also had a bit of a feeling that others where not that welcome in the TEA thread, but that could be just me. --- End quote --- That is not true. Whenever (mostly) someone new showed up and introduced himself he got a nice welcome there. I'd never the impression, that somebody wouldn't be welcome to TEA. --- End quote --- Yeah. But don't you find it strange that a forum member gets welcomed to whatever thread? As long as you follow the forum rules that should be taken for granted, shouldn't it? --- End quote --- I'll often respond to a first poster if the OP isn't an abomination. More often than not, the topic is above my pay grade so I just bump the thread. Who knows. I might even learn something. |
| pcprogrammer:
--- Quote from: AVGresponding on August 29, 2022, 09:15:22 am ---Good grief, this thread is moving as fast as the pre-Moderated TEA thread... :-DD --- End quote --- But it is on topic 8) --- Quote from: AVGresponding on August 29, 2022, 09:15:22 am ---In some ways I'd prefer it to be an open poll, so we could see where everyone stands. After all it's not a vote for President of (insert fake democracy of choice), where voting for the wrong option could get you imprisoned or worse. FWIW my vote went to "Too much, back off a bit", as being the closest to my feelings on the matter; though I agree the off-topic was getting out of hand, I think it could have been handled more diplomatically. --- End quote --- It would certainly be interesting to see who voted what in this case from some perspective, but it might also be oil on the fire. From my perspective I fail to see the lack of diplomacy of the moderators, because it has been diplomatic in the first place. How long do you feel it should have continued with just a diplomatic "hey guys stay on topic please" before real action had to be taken. The deleting post was frowned upon. The "replacing my text with removed due to" was frowned upon. There is no right way when people feel they don't need to change their attitude. --- Quote from: AVGresponding on August 29, 2022, 09:15:22 am ---I disagree that all the people that decided to leave are "full of shit". I think there have been some overreactions (on both sides), which some people seem to feel unable to step back from, for reasons of embarrassment or pride or whatever, I don't know, I'm not inside their heads. --- End quote --- I don't recall the emphasis on those of who left being "full of shit", but more on that there was to much off topic being posted. It might have been called crap in the reference to the said posts, but not the posters being full of it. But that is my opinion. --- Quote from: AVGresponding on August 29, 2022, 09:15:22 am ---I remain hopeful that there can be a reasonable outcome to all this. --- End quote --- I guess that is what most of us hope. |
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