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Discussing the usage of the TEA thread
pcprogrammer:
--- Quote from: magic on August 29, 2022, 11:01:27 am ---Ah, "social studies". I would think this implies reading such thread rather than writing to it with your commentaries and rationalizations of decisions made by one side after the other side has already departed, but maybe I'm wrong.
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People studying things also write about it.
The "other side" is very welcome to come and join the discussion. Here is the place to do it.
--- Quote from: magic on August 29, 2022, 11:01:27 am ---I am not deleting your posts or filing reports on you and I am under no illusion that you would actually go silent.
Maybe I'm just doing social studies of my own ;)
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If I was out of order I would go silent. Did in the TEA thread after the initial warnings. But as written before, here it is all on topic.
And that is your prerogative. You can study what ever you like.
Edit fixed provocative into prerogative, because it was the wrong word.
BU508A:
--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on August 29, 2022, 11:08:30 am ---
--- Quote from: BU508A on August 29, 2022, 10:57:31 am ---How do you know?
Is that what you infer from the possible fact that they did not respond to your comments?
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Indeed.
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I for myself would be very cautious with such conclusions. For the same reason we cannot look into your head you can't to this as well. I hope. ;D
I suspect, that you won't answer as well to every single posting which might be related (directly or indirectly) to you.
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--- Quote from: BU508A on August 29, 2022, 10:57:31 am ---
--- Quote ---But again, that is my personal experience and might well be because of me being me.
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I think, this is likely.
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Hard to hear but at least honest.
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I'm trying to made myself as clear as possible to avoid misunderstandings.
For the same reason I'm trying to avoid projecting my feelings to others.
pcprogrammer:
--- Quote from: BU508A on August 29, 2022, 11:29:24 am ---I for myself would be very cautious with such conclusions. For the same reason we cannot look into your head you can't to this as well. I hope. ;D
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Don't worry, I can't. Like to believe I have some good insights, but will let others be the judge on that.
--- Quote from: BU508A on August 29, 2022, 11:29:24 am ---I suspect, that you won't answer as well to every single posting which might be related (directly or indirectly) to you.
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I try to answer as much as I can, and also hope it has some value for others.
--- Quote from: BU508A on August 29, 2022, 11:29:24 am ---I'm trying to made myself as clear as possible to avoid misunderstandings.
For the same reason I'm trying to avoid projecting my feelings to others.
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Appreciated and a good quality I guess.
Peter_O:
Let's just leave TEA as it is now for some weeks and see how it goes.
I like it as kind of an overall TE thread to get inspired and read about equipment I do not even know or would not actively go and seek elsewhere.
- I'll try to check the width of my pictures before posting as I have done in the past.
- I'll try to sensibly snip quotes, as the link to the full post is always on top anyway.
- I'll try to advertise my new TE only, but to start seperate threads for details.
- I'll be glad, if the thread is gaining some more live again, which I'm sure it will.
A grain of OT should be allowed for that. Maybe we manage to get a wee better in self moderation in the future.
AVGresponding:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on August 29, 2022, 09:52:34 am ---
--- Quote from: AVGresponding --- though I agree the off-topic was getting out of hand, I think it could have been handled more diplomatically
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AFAIK gnif was the model of diplomacy. Perhaps that was the problem: with cross children and cats, if you don't stamp your authority they will just push the boundaries more and more.
Also consider that it is a live system with feedback, so there will be some hysteresis (maybe SMF could implement a moderation PID controller).
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The wholesale deletion of posts he considered to be off-topic included some that were not really, and some that were well-wishing people that had mentioned certain rl problems. He himself later admitted the deletion of well-wishing messages was a mistake.
I want to make it clear here that I am not having a go at gnif; he's human, he makes mistakes, as we all do. I was disappointed he chose to step down as a Mod, I believe we should try to learn by our mistakes and improve our performance and interactions going forward, but I completely understand why someone would want to avoid in the future the kind of over-the-top vitriol he was subject to both here and elsewhere.
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