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| Neper:
--- Quote from: gnif on August 23, 2022, 02:19:48 pm ---Why/how hard to just follow the ONE simple instruction of "posts must be electronics related"? How is this unreasonable? --- End quote --- It would be just another electronics thread/forum with no particular interest. There are dozens of them elsewhere. The mix of on and off topic messages with a light dusting of banter has kept TEA alive. You're about to turn it into a GULA... pardon... a graveyard. |
| Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: Neper on August 23, 2022, 02:34:47 pm --- --- Quote from: gnif on August 23, 2022, 02:19:48 pm ---Why/how hard to just follow the ONE simple instruction of "posts must be electronics related"? How is this unreasonable? --- End quote --- It would be just another electronics thread/forum with no particular interest. There are dozens of them elsewhere. The mix of on and off topic messages with a light dusting of banter has kept TEA alive. You're about to turn it into a GULA... pardon... a graveyard. --- End quote --- But are the supporters of side banter prepared to help tone down (things such as) gun talk if it starts? |
| Cerebus:
--- Quote from: gnif on August 23, 2022, 02:25:20 pm --- --- Quote from: Cerebus on August 23, 2022, 02:22:27 pm ---It's quite clear that gnif is deleting stuff without user complaints. He just deleted what was effectively an "I'm going quiet" message from me in TEA within seconds of it having been posted. I frankly don't trust him anymore to not do similar here to control the conversation. --- End quote --- No, I am deleting things that are off topic... Attached is your post and I am sorry if it was simply I am going silent message and I miss-understood your message, however it could have been said here. See attached. --- End quote --- It could have been said here? A topic that has existed for a few hours, when I'm trying to inform people in a thread I've inhabited for years that I'm deliberately going quiet and that those who know me know where to find me? Pull the other one. What I wanted to say was more pointed and would have directly referenced the fact that I was no longer going to participate until until either the moderators had all reacquired their sanity or all the TEA regulars had pissed off to somewhere else. I could have done that, but I deliberately refrained from doing so, avoiding being confrontational, disruptive or anything other than informative. Like I say, I think you've made a fait accompli and the TEA thread is effectively dead as of today's outburst of moderatorial intolerance. There's already a groups.io mailing list made some long time ago and the discord discussion that's been running for years is taking on a new life. You're going to get exactly what you're asking for but without the participation of the regulars who provide most of the on-topic discussion as well as the off-topic discussion. |
| gnif:
--- Quote from: Cerebus on August 23, 2022, 02:29:56 pm ---You know very well that I am not talking about verboten subjects such as gun-nut posts, but water cooler talk that made the TEA thread what it was and now no longer will be if you have your way. In fact by making the false parallel you are proving conclusively that this is not about wandering off topic too far, but about power and control. If you really can't tell the difference between content known by all to be inflammatory and harmless chat and handle the moderation of both with some nuance and finesse, then you've got more of a problem than the TEA thread mainstays walking out --- End quote --- Ok, let me put this into simple terms.... we volunteer our time to moderate these forums. 1) We have day jobs, families, lives outside of these forums 2) Our time is limited and we respond to moderation reports as we can. 3) Recently the TEA thread has been generating the most moderator report noise due to off-topic posts. 4) Upon investigation it's apparent that it has devolved far enough that there were posts about woodworking, road rules, covid and finally someone decided that it was OK to start posting a topic on guns/explosives. 5) These posts were removed, and it was made clear that this could not continue this way and the only way forward was to remain on the topic of electronics. 6) This was argued against, etc... but eventually things settled down and the TEA thread started to get a better SNR. 7) Again, reports flared up because people had gone back to ignoring the instructions given and again challenged the requirement that topics be kept related to electronics, even if that relationship was tenuous. 8) A line was drawn in the sand. 9) The line was crossed. What do you expect? --- Quote from: Cerebus on August 23, 2022, 02:42:23 pm ---It could have been said here? A topic that has existed for a few hours, when I'm trying to inform people in a thread I've inhabited for years that I'm deliberately going quiet and that those who know me know where to find me? Pull the other one. --- End quote --- Fair enough, and I apologise, I was too quick to act here. Edit: Nice ninja edit there... (attached) This thread will not be altered, deleted, etc... The only thing that will happen is it will be locked when it has run it's course. |
| Neper:
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on August 23, 2022, 02:41:36 pm ---But are the supporters of side banter prepared to help tone down (things such as) gun talk if it starts? --- End quote --- They have done so in the past and it has worked. |
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