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| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: Specmaster on August 31, 2022, 08:11:24 pm --- --- Quote from: m k on August 30, 2022, 10:58:12 am ---<snip> Somebody wondered why TEA repair is not in repair sections. For that bd said once that there's no sense to have a thread to say I changed a diode. And if med is restoring old Tek there's nothing unusual that something needs to be repaired. TEA is different. <snip> --- End quote --- There are many actual repairs that were posted bit by bit as the various stages were carried out, in the TEA thread and at the same time, also posted in a dedicated thread in the "repair" section, so for many of the repairs in TEA that were spread across multiple pages, often separated by days, weeks or more, all dependent on the availability of spares or while seeking another donor carcass to rob parts from to make a working item from 2 or more items. As these parts showed up, another installment of the repair would be posted into the TEA thread and the dedicated thread in repair section, so people who use the search facility should be able to locate that particular repair with the sections all in chronological order without all the other getting in the way. Its not rocket science, I've used the search system for information that I needed on some repairs. --- End quote --- Most people who moved from TEA though seem to agree that it's better to have the ability to create threads. So that was the obvious solution here as well. After all, that's what forums are for. I think what happened is that this "TEA community" just got so used to using the one big thread that they didn't want to change anything, they just got used to it. People don't like change. But obviously what was needed was it's own forum section with it's own moderator if they thought moderation was a problem. Frankly, I think the moderation was only a problem because it was one big enormous thread, and there were too many people wanting to use it with different views on what should be allowed in there and what shouldn't. If it was broken down into threads then people could more easily ignore threads they are not interested in and they wouldn't have been miffed about a couple of pages of talk about someones bunyin or something. Just like the forum as a whole has operated sucessfully for over 12 years now and hasn't been destroyed by over or under moderation. That fact that we are discussing how to use ONE THREAD in forum is enough evidence that one thread was the wrong way to go. Perhaps all that was needed was one Test Equipment section for the "normies" and a Test Equipment Anonymous section for the hard core totally addicted. |
| mnementh:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on August 31, 2022, 11:31:19 pm --- --- Quote from: mnementh on August 31, 2022, 07:16:35 pm --- --- Quote ---*weary* --- End quote --- I'm going to ask again: All we ever wanted was to be left alone to play. If you place the TEAnonymous thread in the correct OT section, where it will not be bludgeoning those interested in On-Topic discussions, some of us might begin to peek in and contribute from time to time, once the bruises start to fade and the cuts stop bleeding. If it is made clear to the "complainers" that TEANonymous is an OT thread and complaints purely about OT will be given exactly as much consideration as such frivolous complaints deserve, that would be a great start. If the complainers want to have a purely ON-TOPIC discussion about TE and their TE projects, let them start such a thread instead of taking it away from the community who started TEAnonymous. We already did as you asked regarding the usual 3rd rail topics; even when we did touch on such points we made very certain it was only briefly and did not become long conversation. That I feel is a reasonable compromise. I loved the TEAnonymous thread... it was where my friends were, and it was where we played, and it was where I kept my toys. But as long as we have the threat of wholesale moderation of content simply for being OT hanging over our heads, we will not feel it is safe to just play... particularly when I compare what we posted to current content. :palm: --- End quote --- Again, for probably the dozenth time now, this all blew up while I wasn't watching. I literally came in one day to find everyone had taken their bat and ball and gone home. Because I didn't know it was all happening, there was absolutely nothing I could have done unless someone alterted me to the concerns, and sadly no one did. If they did then I would have offered what I have offered now, your own space with your own moderator, or something. I understand exactly what you are saying, I really do, but that does no good when it's after the fact of people leaving, I can't do anything about it now. The problem is that it seems that everyone in TEA assumed that I knew what was going on and I was secretely watching and ignoring it all from the sidelines and lettign it all happen. So please, in the future anyone else who is having issues like this on the forum, email me directly with your concerns. If someone had simply done that then I think all this could have been averted. I know to you this sounds like I'm just blaming you and the others, but that's not the case, it's simply the facts of the circumstances of how all this went down. --- End quote --- Umm... okay... How does any of this have anything to do with what is quoted above? All I asked is that our TEAnonymous thread be moved to some OT section where it so obviously belongs. :-// This would go a long way as a gesture of goodwill. It is something that could be done now. All the talk of subforums and making additional threads is awesome... and we might even take advantage... if we had some reason to believe the whole thing wasn't going just happen again in a month or three with a whole new crop of complainers drawn in. Putting the TEAnonymous thread in the OT section removes that argument. And just to make it clear, I'm responding here because that is what you told us to do when you visited our counterpart thread. --- Quote ---On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 11:21 PM, EEVblog wrote: If you want to talk to me, do so on the EEVBlog forum thread on the topic, I won't lock it, you are free to discuss it in perpetuity there. --- End quote --- mnem |
| tautech:
--- Quote from: mnementh on September 01, 2022, 12:05:32 am --- All I asked is that our TEAnonymous thread be moved to some OT section where it so obviously belongs. :-// Putting the TEAnonymous thread in the OT section removes that argument. --- End quote --- Yep, here: Off Topic Hobbies As far away from the TE board as is possible .......Moderator for such TBD. However bitseeker can do this Move Topic as OP and a sticky link will still remain in the TE board. |
| bsfeechannel:
--- Quote from: tautech on September 01, 2022, 12:34:34 am ---Yep, here: Off Topic Hobbies As far away from the TE board as is possible .......Moderator for such TBD. However bitseeker can do this Move Topic as OP and a sticky link will still remain in the TE board. --- End quote --- I second that. |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: mnementh on September 01, 2022, 12:05:32 am ---All I asked is that our TEAnonymous thread be moved to some OT section where it so obviously belongs. :-// This would go a long way as a gesture of goodwill. It is something that could be done now. --- End quote --- That's what I offered days ago, yet no one seemed interested? Ok, fine, I'll do it right now, give me a few minutes --- Quote ---All the talk of subforums and making additional threads is awesome... and we might even take advantage... if we had some reason to believe the whole thing wasn't going just happen again in a month or three with a whole new crop of complainers drawn in. Putting the TEAnonymous thread in the OT section removes that argument. --- End quote --- Just to be clear, I can't just move the TEA thread to an "OT section". There is no "OT section" on the forum. People have voted many times against having a completely OT section of the forum where "anything goes". TEA has to be moved somewhere, so I will create new section under the Other Hobbies section down the bottom, then you have your own section where you can post multiple threads. Bitseeker as the thread owner can then move it there himself if he wants to. |
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