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| Simon:
I'm jumping in at the tail end here but I wanted to switch to linux and gave up. Linux is a funny old world. Free is not free. You get the code for free and if yau can't make it work screw you or pay people for support. So you will have to on you own: Figure out how it works Get any device younger than 10 yrs old to work forget wifi adapters forget 4K screens have no software support for commercial packages and hope you can make them work. Linux was never meant to be free to the everyday user. It was meant to be free to the nerds to do with it as they please and as a consequence there is no high level standardization and unless you are an initiated nerd you get nowhere. I pay £10 per month for a cPanel licence on my server because while there are plenty of so called free solutions out there they come with no assistance and the only way to get any real help is to pay someone an hourly rate to fix something they have probably fixed a ton of times before. With cPanel I pay a predictable amount for for a well tested product that has most things sorted, but even then they try to get you to part with more money by claiming that their version of linux is more secure when no doubt it is the same centos linux that is the only one cPanel runs on with some tweaks. I hate windows and microsoft but they are far less painful than the so called open source world. I don't care for getting to read the code that I don't even understand I just want the damn thing to work rather than have to rely on some one with potentially no commitment doing it in their spare time. |
| RoGeorge:
Wow, every reply since my last post was a bummer. :scared: To summarize: 1. ZFS won't be usable with Linux 5 kernel expected this year. Didn't know that, thank you for pointing it out. 2. ZFS can have silent corruptions, especially on non ECC RAM machines (or, silent corruptions due to ZFS bugs even if the machine has parity RAM), while btrfs will almost certainly become corrupted at a power outage or a hard shutdown. This disqualifies btrfs for my usage. Questions: - Will the Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Long Time Support up to 2023) keep the Linux kernel at v4 for the next 4 years, and not silently upgrade to v5? The LTS wiki doesn't mention about kernels, so I'm not sure: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS. My hope is to use Ubuntu 18.04 LTS instead of 18.10 I have now, therefore stay with a v4 kernel for the next years, so I could still use ZFS until ZFS will be able to work with v5 kernels. I don't think ZFS and Linux will diverge forever. - Do I still need backup with a mirrored ZFS? My hope was to use mirrored disks with ZFS + snapshots, and never bother with backups. It's a home setup, with ZFS only for long term storage. The worst damage that can happen would be to lose family pics or personal projects, nothing enterprise level or time critical. My plan was: If one disk become corrupt, just use the mirror one, and later restore the integrity of the array. --- Quote from: ruffy91 on January 25, 2019, 05:48:40 am ---Also if you use one of these filesystems you absolutely have to have good working backups. You will have to restore from backup every time there is corruption. --- End quote --- |
| BravoV:
A failed attempt as well when I upgraded my desktop to new Ryzen system, when it was new, got failed miserably, as the distro it self pushing a legit recommendation update for the newly Ryzen chipset, as noob, blindly followed as the standard installation image didn't have that new chipset support yet, and yielded an instant lock down and failed booting even from cold boot, it just left me as linux noob scratching head. :( Luckily I still have my Windows SSD drive image. |
| rdl:
I have never heard of these ZFS issues. I've only heard that it was an enterprise grade file system and was relatively drive agnostic. The FreeNAS recommendation was 8GB of ECC RAM minimum, so for my personal NAS (1user) that is what I use. The machine, which needs less than 50 watts power, is on a UPS just to be safe. I have 4 drives. I started with two WD Blue 2 TB mirrored. I upgraded last year and added two 4 GB WD Red, also set up as a mirrored pair. I copied all the data on the blues over to the reds. For now, I keep the two pairs synced. I also make occasional back up syncs to my old WHS 2011 machine which has a WD Green 2 TB backed up to an external WD Green 2 TB. So I essentially have six copies of everything, most of the time. It doesn't seem that I need to worry much about data loss. I think the only thing lacking is some kind of "off-site" back up. |
| Monkeh:
--- Quote from: Simon on January 25, 2019, 07:31:35 am ---I'm jumping in at the tail end here --- End quote --- With the same old nonsense. --- Quote ---Figure out how it works --- End quote --- There's lots of documentation. --- Quote ---Get any device younger than 10 yrs old to work --- End quote --- Not very problematic, I don't own much stuff that old, and it all works.. --- Quote ---forget wifi adapters forget 4K screens --- End quote --- Rubbish. --- Quote ---so called open source --- End quote --- 'so called'? Just because you don't care doesn't mean it isn't. |
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