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| tggzzz:
Why restrict yourself to one version of Linux. Try one; if you don't like it then changing to another is trivial. Flip back and forth with ease, if you prefer. Put all of the /home on one mount point (1). Have another for everything else(2), and have a third for an alternate o/s(3). Install the one you suspect is your favourite on mount point (2) and during installation state mount point (1) is /home. Install one you are trying out on mount point (3) and during installation again state mount point (1) is /home. Then at boot time, decide whether which you want. Your directory and data will be accessible and in the "right" place no matter which you boot. Or, of course, there are live CDs. |
| apis:
--- Quote from: free_electron on January 19, 2019, 01:10:43 am ---It's the same thing with 3D printers. There are 2 groups of people. Those that want to tinker with the machine , and those that want to print something. The latter group is constantly complaining about the deplorable state of the machines. bed leveling , filament clogging , print adhesion , print interruptions, sdcard problems , data starvation.. The latter group does not want to deal with that. They want to PRINT something. Same with linux : there is a group of people that like to tinker with code and operating system guts. Linux is great for those. IF you want to get work done ... not so much. --- End quote --- Wow, yeah, Linux users doesn't get any work done, all they do is configure their desktop day out and day in. :palm: 3d printing wasn't invented yesteryear. There have been additive manufacturing methods since the 1980's and there are plenty of commercial 3d printers that need no tinkering to print reliably. But they cost a few million bucks per machine. What a couple of "tinkerers" from the university of Bath managed to do was build an open source and dirt cheap 3d fdm printer that could print most of its own parts. That made the technology available to a lot more people. Just like Linux, if you can't figure out how to use it then don't. It's not for everyone and that's fine. |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: free_electron on January 19, 2019, 01:10:43 am --- --- Quote from: jimdeane on January 18, 2019, 07:01:38 pm ---If you want a single option, chosen for you by people who are much more knowledgeable (according to them) about what you want and need than you are, then you should choose Mac or MS Windows. If you want options and can make a choice between flashy cutting-edge and established reliable options, and are willing to decide what's best for you, then choose a Linux distribution. The easy one is Ubuntu, in that you can just go with the default and be OK. (Note: this is intended only to address choices in the OS configuration, not use cases.) --- End quote --- see, the problem with that is that you only consider the operating system. It's like having a choice of 500 different cars that all have one thing in common : they use square wheels.(the linux kernel) when i raise the issue : you can't really drive those the feedback is : but you can change the color and steering wheel and all other features. --- End quote --- Yeah we already know you can't use Linux because you don't want to. Just stop the nonsense :horse: If Linux really was that bad then half of the engineers wouldn't be using it. One of the reasons I switched to Linux is because I got sick & tired of dealing with Windows issues which are such an enormous time sink at the worst moment. And Windows is very slow too due to the poor memory management and poor network stack. The same project takes 20 to 30 times longer to compile on Windows compared to Linux. |
| Halcyon:
--- Quote from: free_electron on January 19, 2019, 01:10:43 am ---It's the same thing with 3D printers. There are 2 groups of people. Those that want to tinker with the machine , and those that want to print something. The latter group is constantly complaining about the deplorable state of the machines. bed leveling , filament clogging , print adhesion , print interruptions, sdcard problems , data starvation.. The latter group does not want to deal with that. They want to PRINT something. Same with linux : there is a group of people that like to tinker with code and operating system guts. Linux is great for those. IF you want to get work done ... not so much. --- End quote --- Not the same as Linux at all. It seems like you haven't given Linux a serious chance lately. Sure, back in the day, you basically needed to be a programmer to use Linux on a workstation. Those days are long gone and many distros are designed to be easy to use right out of the box. Ubuntu is a great example of this. So is Mint, CentOS, Fedora Workstation etc... I understand where you're going with your argument, after all, I'm basically a Windows guy. I've used every version of Windows and I know it inside out. Yet I find Windows 10 hinders my productivity. Even on decent enterprise workstations, Windows 10 is flakey. There are glitches throughout and I spend half my time trying to find settings and options which aren't in logical places. Why do I need three different places where I can find printer settings!? I gave Windows 10 a solid chance for about 6-12 months and for every one thing I liked about it, there were five other things I hated. Windows 7 is the last version of Windows I will use at home, unless Microsoft miraculously do a huge back flip (which is highly unlikely). In my opinion Windows 10 is the single worst operating system I have ever used (and I'm including Apple Mac OS, Windows Vista and Windows Millennium Edition in my consideration too). |
| Nominal Animal:
--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on January 19, 2019, 01:05:14 am --- --- Quote from: soldar on January 18, 2019, 09:54:27 pm ---Yes, it seems the Linux crowd are so entertained with their OS that they have no need for applications. --- End quote --- That's not how Linux users think. They think that if an application doesn't run on Linux it is because it is not worthy to run on their desktops. --- End quote --- Yeah, I keep a masturbation shrine next to my machine. Every morning, when I wake up, I rub one off to Linus Torvalds. With my morning coffee, I recite a prayer to Awk of Seds, and hope I get to proselytize the heavenly light of Linux to the unbelievers. Then I go and round up some neighborhood kids for breakfast; they taste better than bacon. Next I have to wipe my floors, because I keep drooling, the mouthbreather that I am; and I just can't get the hang of not defecating randomly everywhere. :-// --- Quote from: free_electron on January 19, 2019, 01:10:43 am ---i have work to do. --- End quote --- So, you need a hammer, because the only problem you have is nails. Use Windows then; problem solved. If you use a Linux machine, and do not configure it to your needs, then you are essentially using a screwdriver to hammer in nails. If you want to get shit done, you configure the machine to work for you, or you pay someone else to do it for you, or it will suck. That is the cost of free/open source software; deal with it. You'd be surprised how efficient you can be, when you have a well-configured workstation that has the tools you need. |
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