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tszaboo:

--- Quote from: daqq on August 19, 2022, 01:12:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on August 19, 2022, 12:56:54 pm ---Most European countries/regions/peoples have at some point practiced slavery.
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Fixed it for you. The discussion is really mostly West-centric, concentrating on a few select countries, while glossing over the world wide slavery and its long history and tradition, which is alive and well to this day in various forms. Basically, if you look at human history, it can be summed up as people doing shitty things to other people for shitty reasons with the occasional bright exception - and this can be applied onto damn nearly any region and race. But yeah, let's go with the narrative which is "white people bad".

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Yes daqq, I quite agree with you, I'm also quite upset about this broad strokes painting, and the "we are all guilty" mentality.
In large part of East and Central Europe Slavery for all practical purposes ended in the 13th century, even if it wasn't specifically outlawed for much later. Even before that it was PoWs from neighboring countries, and had nothing to do with ethnicity. In fact lot of those countries were the subject of slavery by the Ottoman empire, then the Germans, then the Soviets.
If you want to feel the collective guilty about your skin color or whatever your country did quite recently, fine, but don't generalize it to everyone, and leave us out of it.
(if it matters, I'm not Dutch)

tom66:
Zero999, I would agree with you besides one point and that is transwomen (i.e. biologically men, reassigned after birth) competing in women's sport is unfair.

There are examples of teenage male teams trouncing professional female teams - the competitive edge that high testosterone and higher bone density and different skeletal and muscular build gives you over a woman is like trying to compete with Tiger Woods as an amateur teeist.

It is a tricky problem to solve, though.  I don't think there's an answer that doesn't offend some group, but then most compromises are like that.

I'm very much in favour of people being given some basic education on being respectful of others.  I don't care if you're Jewish, Catholic, gay, trans, straight, black, Asian or white - it's all ultimately irrelevant to me.  What I do care about is that you have mutual respect for everyone else, provided that is paid back.  I have no time for a-holes or disrespectful individuals, and it has no bearing at all on their background.

nctnico:
Fully agree. I loath the whole 'we need a bin for every kind of person' mentality. In reality we are all people. I divide people into two groups: nice people and a-holes. Fortunately the latter group is rather small.

madires:
Just for reference:
- Slavery in Africa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa)
- Slavery in contemporary Africa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_contemporary_Africa)

emece67:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on August 18, 2022, 11:32:08 pm ---The only people who seem to want this thread shut down are those that basically support DEI, because they are being challenged here. So they compare it to talking about wars, covid, religion, etc as an excuse to have it shut down.

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Apparently it is not possible.

Being me the only one (I think) that mentioned war and COVID, I understand that the above cite is to me.

Will say it again: NONE ON THIS FUCKING FORUM KNOWS WHAT MY IDEAS ABOUT DEI ARE.

Continue all you want with your joyful game, but DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH THAT I HAVE NOT SAID AND DO NOT PUT IDEAS ON MY HEAD.

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