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Diversity, Equity and Inclusion
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MarginallyStable:

--- Quote ---and most of all stop telling other people to put you in a box you want to be put in
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 :-+
Simon:
Looking for another job is the best option. Where I work we have non of this BS. My manager employs people firstly on the basis of competence and secondly if he feels they will fit in within the company. We don't even care for degrees. We do have one Asian colleague, he was hired for his ability not because of his ethnicity. We would take a female engineer, not a female, but a female engineer, no issues there but we don't have a silly policy about it.

We are a small company.

Any time I fill out a form that asks about my ethnicity I refuse to give it, particularly if it says some crap like "in order to make sure we are serving everyone please tell us what you are". I don't see how them knowing helps. I will only disclose ethnicity for medical reasons.
paulca:

--- Quote from: free_electron on August 17, 2022, 05:39:23 pm ---The biggest problem is the labeling in itself. men/women black/white gay/straight . we are all HUMAN. stop using those classifications and stop this endless i/he/she/we classify as xyz. Stop putting people in boxes. And stop putting yourself in a box. and most of all stop telling other people to put you in a box you want to be put in. there would be a lot less noise in the world.

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Hear'Hear!  (old speak for 'wat e said')
paulca:

--- Quote from: Simon on August 17, 2022, 06:02:06 pm ---Any time I fill out a form that asks about my ethnicity I refuse to give it, particularly if it says some crap like "in order to make sure we are serving everyone please tell us what you are". I don't see how them knowing helps. I will only disclose ethnicity for medical reasons.

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Absolutely.  I never fill in the ones that are legally optional.  Unfortunately there are reglatory filtered biases where I live.  Around race, religion and 'background of up bringing'.  They leave the option "I consider myself to be a member of neither Protestant or Catholic communities.", however anyone who has read the government guidance documents knows, when you put that, they just look up your "probably alignment" from your postal code, used to be your primary school.

Looking for another job won't help.  They all have this agenda these day.  It just depends on how much they can force it in the locale they are working in.  I don't think the UK/EU/Ireland based company I am actually employed in are that bad, although literally every top award and most promotions were women.  The big US company I spent my days for in Singapore are going nuts with it.  It is them who have completely abandoned all vale of fairness and equality and literally reworded it:

"Diversity, Equity and Inclusion"

Apparently it's the entire department (1000s of people) has been rebranded with the emblem tag line:  "Digitization, Innovation, Diversity Control"

That really sounds like "All animals are inclusive, but some animals are more inclusive than others."

Logical puzzle.  Excluding people for not being inclusive enough, is that the same as the tolerating intolerance paradox thing?
paulca:
Couldn't have put this better myself!

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