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| fourfathom:
And it depends on the economic / business cycle. Sometimes the recruiters are at your door, other times it's the wolves. Looking for work in the 1970s recession was painful. The last time I changed jobs was in 1997 when networking tech was booming. I had multiple job offers and my boss offered me a 50% raise to stick around. I ended up helping found a startup, thinking if that one failed there would be plenty of other opportunities (and there were, but fortunately we didn't fail.) A few years later it all went to shit -- for a while. Is there an active forum thread where old-timers and newbies can share stories and advice? That would be fun, and we're dragging this one into major thread-drift. |
| Bud:
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on August 24, 2022, 06:54:45 pm ---, promoting an employee to a management position for no clear apparent reason (including, they didn't ask for it) can be a red flag indeed. It's a common way for a company to push someone out gently when it has no solid ground for sacking them. --- End quote --- I do not know who would do it this, it seems to be a really weird way to get rid of someone. |
| Bud:
--- Quote from: fourfathom on August 25, 2022, 12:39:26 am ---OK, important career tip: Don't rock the boat unless you can afford to. If it's that important to you, be prepared for the consequences. --- End quote --- But if you can, it is so much fun. Do not ask how I know. ::) |
| fourfathom:
--- Quote from: Bud on August 26, 2022, 12:52:53 am --- --- Quote from: SiliconWizard on August 24, 2022, 06:54:45 pm ---, promoting an employee to a management position for no clear apparent reason (including, they didn't ask for it) can be a red flag indeed. It's a common way for a company to push someone out gently when it has no solid ground for sacking them. --- End quote --- I do not know who would do it this, it seems to be a really weird way to get rid of someone. --- End quote --- Perhaps this is done in other areas, but in California you don't need a reason to fire / lay off someone, unless they are in a union. You can't fire them because of race, sex. religion, etc, and it's less likely to result in a "protected class" lawsuit if you can show cause, but it's still pretty easy to get rid of someone. I was fired from my first real tech job. I'm pretty sure it was because I was too good (?!), but it could have been because I looked like a dirty long-haired hippie. It was one of the best things that happened to me -- it was a formative experience. |
| KaneTW:
--- Quote from: Bud on August 26, 2022, 12:52:53 am --- --- Quote from: SiliconWizard on August 24, 2022, 06:54:45 pm ---, promoting an employee to a management position for no clear apparent reason (including, they didn't ask for it) can be a red flag indeed. It's a common way for a company to push someone out gently when it has no solid ground for sacking them. --- End quote --- I do not know who would do it this, it seems to be a really weird way to get rid of someone. --- End quote --- Firing in Europe is *hard* |
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