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Diversity, Equity and Inclusion
pcprogrammer:
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on August 26, 2022, 04:04:46 pm ---And it looks like general intelligence, the g-factor, is one of these. It can be reduced by poor nutrition and stress and brain damage, but there are no known methods to reliably increase it. Even teaching how intelligence tests work and how to "game" them only helps by at most one standard deviation (15 points), and really only can be done by those who are already near or above the median (100 points).
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I believe it is also age bound. Above a certain age it won't go up any more. This is now and then a topic of discussion with friends of ours. What is intelligence? I have been somewhat obsessed with it due to having two smarter brothers 8)
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on August 26, 2022, 04:04:46 pm ---
--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on August 26, 2022, 03:45:41 pm ---I have wrote this before, you are better with words than I am :)
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No, me fail English often. It may look like that, because I re-read everything I write as if I was someone else, and compare what I wrote to what I intended, and end up editing a lot. Better consider it as verbosity combined with a lot of effort spent to try and convey specific ideas. (I am not suggesting everyone should do so, nor do I consider it a good thing per se. I only do this because I feel I need to.)
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It is a complement :)
And the meaning was towards how you express yourself and not the English that you write. To be honest I re-read what I write too most of the time. Some times I'm to hasty and then the errors slip in.
fourfathom:
--- Quote from: paulca on August 26, 2022, 04:16:14 pm ---Transphobia. Fear of movement.
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Well, right there you are already in trouble. It's kind of like using the word "niggardly" and expecting others to accept that it etymologically unrelated to the "N-word".
And there is something to the "charisma" thing. Management and leadership are different. I was actually a decent leader but a pretty crappy manager. A good manager should be both. Most of us have worked for poor managers at one time or another and the difference can be dramatic.
pcprogrammer:
--- Quote from: sokoloff on August 26, 2022, 04:24:47 pm ---I am openly, actively, and proudly trying to improve the opportunity my kids have. Just as my parents did for me and their parents did for them. It's how my parents became the first generation in either side of our family to attend any college at all. It's how my parents scrimped and saved to buy me a computer when that's what I wanted most, leading directly to my enjoyable and successful career. It's why they lived below their means to be able to give each of us siblings $10K to help buy our first house and to retire without burdening the next generation financially.
All of those represent improvements in the opportunities they afforded to their family and I do my best to afford analogous improvements for my family.
I don't see any reasonable way to both encourage families to avail themselves of these means to improve their opportunities and demand perfect equality of opportunity across the population.
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And that is what good parents do, and your kids most likely won't be up the fence demanding equality of opportunity, because you are trying to just give them that. How many don't even care or are capable of doing so?
My parents did that too, they bend over backwards to give us the opportunities we needed. And even though they had concerns about me when I was young, it shifted to concerns about my oldest brother because he did some unwise things. And here we are, I retired when I was 48 (I'm 58 now), have a mortgage free house, can live a care free life and he is still working to pay for his mortgage.
paulca:
--- Quote from: fourfathom on August 26, 2022, 04:36:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: paulca on August 26, 2022, 04:16:14 pm ---Transphobia. Fear of movement.
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Well, right there you are already in trouble. It's kind of like using the word "niggardly" and expecting others to accept that it etymologically unrelated to the "N-word".
And there is something to the "charisma" thing. Management and leadership are different. I was actually a decent leader but a pretty crappy manager. A good manager should be both. Most of us have worked for poor managers at one time or another and the difference can be dramatic.
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Yea. I know. Not work, but I once said the local political parties policies were retarded. Because they are. Their policies are stuck in the 18th century and their values in the 16th. When someone tried to say that was an insult against someone, I pleaded absolutely ignorance and scowled at them like I was shooting the messenger. In that instance it worked. I got lucky. "Why would you call people that? ", I had asked angrily.
However, you have seen the social media eruptions that take place over the country names Nigeria and Nicaragua? I personally have been to Niger in Morocco. Locally I've also been to Muff (which has a diving school, I am not joking) and Fanny. There are a few even better crackers in Ireland.
On leadership. I agree. Where I seem to do better is in mentoring and giving developers support and the odd shove in the right direction. The better they are and the more senior they are, the less time I spend with them. My approach is to sacrifice my productivity to increase that of many. There is no point me pumping out tickets/jiras if 4 members of the team are blocked, stumbling around for solutions. If I pause my work and spent time with each of them, maybe 2-3 hours total, that unblocks 4 people while costing 1's output. Besides I can usually catch up. If things go well and expectations and assumptions play out, the code works, I can scrape by with a mostly full work load with about 4 juniors. First time I did this I had 12 of them. All graduates, only 4 of the IT graduates. For that they removed my work stream and assignment me as dev lead for the remainder of the project, just because I spent all my time keeping them moving. EDIT: The number 2 thing behind "How do I do that?" is "Which way?", decisions. Junior and even senior developers will come to a grinding halt if they find themselves in a situation where they have to make a decision that will effect the whole project. I have the authority to make that decision for them and usually quickly, which ... keeps them moving. Otherwise I've known devs who will sit there for days worrying about it.
I can't do that however, unless I'm working "with" them on the same stuff, down in the weeds. On projects where I am only getting a look in here or there, I'm next to useless as I have no context and no time to spend getting up to speed. For those I just trust the more senior engineers on that sub team will be fine and will reach out when they need help and not stew.
james_s:
--- Quote from: fourfathom on August 26, 2022, 04:36:54 pm ---Well, right there you are already in trouble. It's kind of like using the word "niggardly" and expecting others to accept that it etymologically unrelated to the "N-word".
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But it is unrelated, there is no connection whatsoever aside from having some vaguely similar sounds in it. When a person somehow connects the two words I think it says a lot more about them than about the person using the word.
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