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Diversity, Equity and Inclusion
paulca:
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--- Quote from: fourfathom on August 26, 2022, 04:36:54 pm ---Well, right there you are already in trouble. It's kind of like using the word "niggardly" and expecting others to accept that it etymologically unrelated to the "N-word".
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But it is unrelated, there is no connection whatsoever aside from having some vaguely similar sounds in it. When a person somehow connects the two words I think it says a lot more about them than about the person using the word.
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Absolutely. I very often turn that stuff right around and present it back to them. If they are going to project that crap into my mouth it's coming back at them.
Funny aside. I picked up my headphones to listen to some music and the a British Female voice said, "Over 60 percent battery left.". I said, "Thanks love."..... I'm doomed! LOL Honestly though, I don't think I've called a real woman "love" in my life!
fourfathom:
--- Quote from: james_s on August 26, 2022, 05:09:15 pm ---
--- Quote from: fourfathom on August 26, 2022, 04:36:54 pm ---Well, right there you are already in trouble. It's kind of like using the word "niggardly" and expecting others to accept that it etymologically unrelated to the "N-word".
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But it is unrelated, there is no connection whatsoever aside from having some vaguely similar sounds in it. When a person somehow connects the two words I think it says a lot more about them than about the person using the word.
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Yes, of course. But use that word in a mixed crowd and see what happens. The DEI warriors will have your head on a spike. Remember, it's "Systemic". Examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_about_the_word_niggardly
paulca:
--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on August 26, 2022, 04:11:44 pm ---Based on this information I think you are right in that they don't want to get rid of you.
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Yea, and I complain about the projects out in the field with the big US giants, but the thing is, they are lucrative, very much so. Multimillion pound deals. So far the company has paid me well for it. They are difficult projects, for difficult customers, in difficult, almost maddeningly so, development environments. A large percentage of people just bolt. Attrition is high. I just seem to have some sort of sucker for punishment. But I am aware it builds character and it is noticed on a CV, at least for those aware of the sector.
--- Quote ---Well there is a lawsuit waiting to happen :-DD
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That was just one example. The banter in the exec staff is fierce, even openly on company wide calls. I've heard worse than the fat lady sings! The company briefings are like watching an Irish comedy talk show... literally that's the style they present in.
james_s:
--- Quote from: fourfathom on August 26, 2022, 01:20:25 am ---
--- Quote from: KaneTW on August 26, 2022, 01:07:35 am ---Firing in Europe is *hard*
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Call me evil, but I'm glad it's easy to fire people here. I've worked too many places where people I would charitably call "deadwood" seem to accumulate year after year, dragging the whole department down. And I have worked at places where the written policy was to lay off 10% of the staff every year -- with pretty generous severance packages. The managers had to decide which 10% That sounds brutal, and certainly wasn't perfect, but it did result in a sharp and motivated group. Done poorly, it no doubt results in firing more senior people who get the higher salaries, and it somehow didn't seem to apply to upper management, but I still appreciated the results.
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Surely it is possible to have some middle ground. Here I think in many jobs it is too easy to fire somebody, while in other jobs (union for example) it is too hard. Both situations lead to problems.
paulca:
It's interesting. I know here that banks are particularly interested in where and how long you have worked where you are. Job security mean financial security. So they will lend you more for less.
This is a good thing. My house is concrete block and brick, walls 30cm thick, with a concrete tile roof. It's "built". It's about 60 years old now, barely showing a crack, needed a little repointing and it's been reglazed a few times, but it'll be here when I'm gone and I expect it will be here for the next 50 to 100 years. You can throw storms at it, hail at it, it just bounces off. That's like most houses round these parts. Downside is, they cost a fortune to build, cost a lot to own.
I remind people of this when they shrug about US encroachment into our legal rights and employment rights. (No surprise, US companies want UK contractors to work US terms). If we shift towards a "Pack your desk, your fired", on Monday morning approach, like the US, banks WONT lend people enough to buy houses here without 50% deposits and stupid interest.
That and a whole other "cost of living" factors.
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