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| paulca:
Interesting. I've been involved in dismissal of an employee. I stood by him until I could not longer. They put him on a insert-careful-wording-for-report which meant he had to report to "third parties" to his role about his weekly activities. Then face a review with his line / team etc. It came to me when most teams rejected him. I took him as a brand new junior and tried to give him a real (as I could make it) bit of work. He failed after a week to even ask the right questions, so I sent him the answer in pigeon IM code. He still didn't manage to complete the task.... write a single method of code and it's unit tests, to calculate "notional value" for an order. The object he had access to, had both price and quantity. I gave him the formula. price*quantity. Weeks. I tried everything I could. I spent hours with him. Nothing. It turned out, he had only passed the entry exam at the end of the "academy" by copying someone elses work. He copy and pasted messages I sent to him on company comms onto Reddit. There he received a roasting, in his responses he mentioned both the company and the client. He didn't get sacked for that either. He jumped eventually, before we pushed him. I've also been made redundant twice. Neither company exist anymore, shrug. In the first case I got not just a fair severence to the sum of 25% salary, tax free + a 4k please-stay-till-the-end bonus. The grave yard shift. Misserable. But they gave me unlimited time off for interviews. Second wasn't so great, but the instant I left there I had invites from the company I've been with since. Basically, "Coffee?" on Linked in. In one of those companies, actually both of them, the US decree for "pick em and fire em" came down. In both cases our local management called a local site wide meeting and said, "Fuck them.", basically. All the managers responded with counter resignations. Nobody go sacked. They did suspend the entire 50% of staff who where self-employed contractors for the month of December. Christmas. Ouch. The government stepped in though and told them to keep their US policies to the US or they'll lose their "benefits" in kind. |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: paulca on August 27, 2022, 06:59:08 pm ---Interesting. I've been involved in dismissal of an employee. I stood by him until I could not longer. They put him on a insert-careful-wording-for-report which meant he had to report to "third parties" to his role about his weekly activities. Then face a review with his line / team etc. It came to me when most teams rejected him. I took him as a brand new junior and tried to give him a real (as I could make it) bit of work. He failed after a week to even ask the right questions, so I sent him the answer in pigeon IM code. He still didn't manage to complete the task.... write a single method of code and it's unit tests, to calculate "notional value" for an order. The object he had access to, had both price and quantity. I gave him the formula. price*quantity. Weeks. I tried everything I could. I spent hours with him. Nothing. It turned out, he had only passed the entry exam at the end of the "academy" by copying someone elses work. He copy and pasted messages I sent to him on company comms onto Reddit. There he received a roasting, in his responses he mentioned both the company and the client. He didn't get sacked for that either. He jumped eventually, before we pushed him. --- End quote --- I have had a similar co-worker at some point. Could not program a single line of code and yet managed to get hired as a programmer. In the NL it is custom to get a temporary contract first which usually lasts somewhere between 6 to 18 months. It is kind of an extended trial period. So it is relatively easy to get rid of people that got hired under false pretences. |
| Circlotron:
I got dismissed back in 2005. The guy I answered to downloaded a 3 page PDF file, printed it out and stapled it together. Then he handed it to me and asked me to make several photocopies! I said to him why don't you just print some more from the PDF??? That was too much. He ran to his higher-up and I was out. Never looked back. :) Nowadays on a good day I can make about twenty times as much per hour, not adjusted for inflation. So I simply work way less. Enough hours to get by and I'm happy. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: nctnico on August 28, 2022, 01:47:44 am ---I have had a similar co-worker at some point. Could not program a single line of code and yet managed to get hired as a programmer. In the NL it is custom to get a temporary contract first which usually lasts somewhere between 6 to 18 months. It is kind of an extended trial period. So it is relatively easy to get rid of people that got hired under false pretences. --- End quote --- I had one too, I was often responsible for QAing his code, and more often than not the bug fixes and features he gave me were partially fixed, incomplete or just flat out still broken. He'd often close bugs as No Repro when it was clear he had not even really tried. On top of that, I got stuck in a kayak with him on a team outing once and I'm not exaggerating when I say I would have been better off with a stack of cinder blocks in my boat because he couldn't paddle worth a crap and was just dead weight. Eventually he got put on a performance improvement program and when that failed he was finally given a month to find another job. |
| RJSV:
Paulca: Thanks for noticing that 'slip' where they mention 'EQUITY'...(That's real money)! As to a minor incident on my turf, I got INSTANTLY labeled as a Trump-Hannity-Fox News freak...just for simply mentioning a political question, along the lines of what this thread examines. (You), a Person doesn't even have to 'take sides' anymore...just one question, or two, can get you into cancel territory... Too bad, you need a job, and I only joke because this subject is laughable... Too bad we need our jobs, these days... - thanks. |
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