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jonpaul:
Bonjour à tous
Happily,  I am retired and very far from the entire horrible topic...

Still in my carrier as an EE, I have seen most Firms hiring Discrimination for decades  against Seniors ( anyone over 50 ) ,discrimination against American engineers in favor of cheap offshore.

What about illegal Discrimination nowadays against Asians, Europeans, by  Government, schools, media?

just my thoughts....

From a optimist in the nuclear age

Bon courage et bon journée

Jon
EEVblog:

--- Quote from: paulca on August 18, 2022, 12:59:33 pm ---There is a fair amount of diversity here.  We have already had comments to that effect.  I'd honestly love to here the opinion of women engineers, there are some on here.
I hope we aren't excluding them?  Are we?
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That has been claimed publicly about this forum before by those with a woke agenda.
And if you try and defend it the response is always some variation of "You are driving women away with your inherent misognistic undertone you fail to acknowledge" etc

The number of women here is just typical of other engineering forums for *insert reasons here*. Just like my channel gets the same male/female ratio as other more woke creators (I've been called too "blokey" before), and even female engineering creators. Funny that, what are the odds. Most people simply don't care about all this intersectional woke BS, it's just a small extremely loud mob, and it's trendy to virtue signal when they cry out about something, especially on Twitter where all the action happens.

I've been running this forum for what, 13 years now? And I can't recall any woman who came on here and got harrassed or anything to that effect, and I certainly wouldn't allow it, I'll ban anyones arse in a second if they do. They are just another forum poster who is interested in electronics. I like to think the forum is actually a great equalliser in this regard. Put woman in your bio and no one really cares, you are behind a keyboard and your tech knowledge and personality does the talking.
As for trans people, there are a huge number on this forum, I think I even did a survey once, and IIRC many said it's one of the best forums around.
EEVblog:

--- Quote from: jonpaul on August 18, 2022, 01:33:02 pm ---Still in my carrier as an EE, I have seen most Firms hiring Discrimination for decades  against Seniors ( anyone over 50 ) ,discrimination against American engineers in favor of cheap offshore.
What about illegal Discrimination nowadays against Asians, Europeans, by  Government, schools, media?
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I had a bunch of uni students (UTS ironically) visit my lab once as part of some assignment to talk to industry people, and there were questions on women and discrimination in engineering.
I told them that you will be discriminated against based on whole bunch of things, and gender is waaaay down the list. I think I rattled off a list of a dozen things that weren't sex or race based.
They seemed genuinely shocked to hear this, as I think it's been drummed into them that the industry is rife with sexual and racial discrimination. It's BS.
I don't like the post videos, but it's an appropriate time to bring in Morgan Freeman for his view which I also hold. Just stop talking about it. But of course we have to because the whole subject has invaded every aspect of our industry, let alone society.

tom66:
I will say this, we really struggle to find engineering candidates who are skilled.

If someone from a diverse background came to us, and they were a qualified candidate, why would we turn them down?  Their skin colour, sexuality, gender, transition-or-not -- it doesn't matter.  The question is can they do the job?  And that's all there is.

Engineering and software fields are almost continuously hiring because of high demand and competitive nature of the market, to exclude say 10-20% of all candidates because of racism or sexism or some other -ism would only put the organisation at a competitive disadvantage.

This is not to say it did not exist in the past: of course it did.  But, I'd like to believe we've moved on in our society now.
KaneTW:


--- Quote from: Halcyon on August 18, 2022, 12:20:59 pm ---
this whole focus on gender, sexual identity, etc... etc... is a load of shit.


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Yes, yes it is. It's infuriating especially since it's a fundamentally broken approach.
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