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| james_s:
--- Quote from: paulca on August 18, 2022, 12:59:33 pm ---There is a fair amount of diversity here. We have already had comments to that effect. I'd honestly love to here the opinion of women engineers, there are some on here. I hope we aren't excluding them? Are we? --- End quote --- I have never met a male engineer that had any desire to exclude women. Most of us enjoy being around women and would love to have more of them in the field, but very few women seem to have any real interest in engineering. When I was a kid I was teased mercilessly by girls for being interested in computers and other nerdy stuff, right up through high school it was an incredibly effective way to repel women. Even to this day I know only a small handful of women who have a genuine interest in STEM and of those I can't think of a single one of them that is interested enough to do it as not only a career but a hobby also as I and many of my male colleagues do. I think it would be great if this wasn't the case, but I really resent being blamed for it or accused of excluding them. Women have a HUGE advantage since every tech company is falling over themselves to hire more of them and yet here we are. |
| emece67:
* It's facism. If you don't tow the party line, if you don't sing with their narrative you are obviously a right wing bigot who should be silenced quickly. * And these attacks are always in the one direction from extreme left to supposed right. * I might not agree with everything he says, but he definitely makes more sense than some of the far-left radicals. * Matt Walsh is another person on the right who talks a lot of sense. * It feels like someone connected a very, very left voltage source to that scale and while I thought I was slightly left of centre, I now find myself out on the right apparently. * People (like me) who considered themselves left (even far left in many regards) now find themsleves in the "centre", because the Overton Window has well and truly shifted to the left. But to the new extreme left you are now marked as a right wing nutjob, alt-right, or something to that effect. That's why the new left are eating themselves, * The left however have not found that limit yet and they are hell bent on pushing and pushing and pushing. * I think much of the shift to the left in the west, comes from the fear of the right * This is also why many who disagree with left wing organisations are labeled as bad * As time goes on, there will be less and less companies surviving on the long term, who are not radical leftist. * Every single time, the radical left was left unchecked, millions of people died who disagreed, or were in the way. * Also far-left really like killing a character of anyone they do not like by naming them alt-right. * identitarian leftie echo chambers like Twatter * but the left has moved SO FAR to the left that now I'm probably somewhere slightly to the right of center Curious EE thread, absolutely on-topic and devoid of political opinions. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: emece67 on August 18, 2022, 11:38:52 am ---We cannot discuss it here because forum rules forbid it. Amazingly moderators seem happy to also post on this thread. --- End quote --- You may notice the rules are somewhat flexible here and not nearly as absolute as in many forums. As long as things stay civil and somewhat relevant to the field of engineering they will generally let things slide. For most of us working corporate jobs, DEI is very relevant. |
| IanB:
--- Quote from: james_s on August 18, 2022, 03:38:50 pm ---I have never met a male engineer that had any desire to exclude women. Most of us enjoy being around women and would love to have more of them in the field, but very few women seem to have any real interest in engineering. When I was a kid I was teased mercilessly by girls for being interested in computers and other nerdy stuff, right up through high school it was an incredibly effective way to repel women. Even to this day I know only a small handful of women who have a genuine interest in STEM and of those I can't think of a single one of them that is interested enough to do it as not only a career but a hobby also as I and many of my male colleagues do. I think it would be great if this wasn't the case, but I really resent being blamed for it or accused of excluding them. Women have a HUGE advantage since every tech company is falling over themselves to hire more of them and yet here we are. --- End quote --- This does depend somewhat on the branch of science or engineering being looked at. I find there is a very short-sighted tendency to see "Tech" as anything to do with computers, rather than STEM in general. If you look at the complete picture, including the biological sciences, mathematics, and all branches of engineering, you will find a much greater representation of women. Even excluding biological sciences, if you look at mechanical, civil or chemical engineering you will find plenty of women there. |
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