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DIY measurement of time dilation in a gravity well

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aetherist:

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--- Quote from: aetherist on January 25, 2023, 07:43:29 pm ---
--- Quote from: BrianHG on January 25, 2023, 05:48:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: aetherist on January 25, 2023, 11:27:17 am --- & Einstein was not correct.
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So you are telling us that mass and energy do not alter the curvature of spacetime?
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There is no such thing as time, (...)

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Sure. And this forum doesn't exist. You don't exist. I'm not even replying to this post.
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The only time that exists is the present instant -- & this instant is universal (ie in our infinite eternal universe).
There is no such thing as Einsteinian time.
The passing of time is an illusion -- albeit one of the great mysteries of life.

aetherist:

--- Quote from: BrianHG on January 25, 2023, 09:38:25 pm ---
--- Quote from: aetherist on January 25, 2023, 09:30:33 pm ---
--- Quote from: BrianHG on January 25, 2023, 09:18:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: aetherist on January 25, 2023, 07:43:29 pm ---
--- Quote from: BrianHG on January 25, 2023, 05:48:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: aetherist on January 25, 2023, 11:27:17 am --- & Einstein was not correct.
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So you are telling us that mass and energy do not alter the curvature of spacetime?
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There is no such thing as time, hence no such thing as spacetime.
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Time and spacetime are not the same thing.  Are you sure you understand what Einstein's General Relativity is?
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Yes i have studied (at home) STR & GTR for many years.
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And after all this study, you don't seem to know that spacetime and time are not the same thing.
Remember, it was Einstein who said that time is nothing more than an illusion, it actually doesn't exist, and yet his General Relativity which he knows is not time has been measured and proven apparently more than you know.
Since you cannot grasp what his 'spacetime' actually is and confused it of being some sort of time, there is nothing here to converse about.
Bye.
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I agree with Einstein that time is an illusion -- tho i suppose my illusion is different to his illusion.
I am fairly informed re experiments etc re time (Hafele Keating etc). Thats why i know that GTR & STR are krapp.

Re spacetime. The space bit is about the contraction of rods (ie length) -- the time bit is about the change in ticking of clocks (ie time dilation) or something or everything.
In GTR i suppose that u cant have one (eg LC) without the other (TD).
On the other hand STR depends on velocity -- & GTR depends on mass & velocity -- but i think that all the same u karnt have one (LC) without the other (TD).

aetherist:

--- Quote from: AndyBeez on January 25, 2023, 09:23:36 pm ---Similar ballpark: The LIGO Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO
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LIGO type signals would not come into play in Circloton's X -- hence can be ignored -- or, what i mean is, that there would be no LIGO type signals, ie the signal would be zero, so, no need to ignore.
There are no such things as Einsteinian GWs -- but i think that LIGO can detect some kinds of signals -- not sure what kinds, i would have to have a think about it.
LIGO, being in vacuum, is not like an old fashioned MMX (these worked in gas mode, not vacuum mode). But i would have to have a think. Its complicated, what with hanging mirrors etc.

SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: aetherist on January 25, 2023, 09:47:49 pm ---
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on January 25, 2023, 09:31:15 pm ---
--- Quote from: aetherist on January 25, 2023, 07:43:29 pm ---
--- Quote from: BrianHG on January 25, 2023, 05:48:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: aetherist on January 25, 2023, 11:27:17 am --- & Einstein was not correct.
--- End quote ---
So you are telling us that mass and energy do not alter the curvature of spacetime?
--- End quote ---
There is no such thing as time, (...)

--- End quote ---
Sure. And this forum doesn't exist. You don't exist. I'm not even replying to this post.
--- End quote ---
The only time that exists is the present instant -- & this instant is universal (ie in our infinite eternal universe).
There is no such thing as Einsteinian time.
The passing of time is an illusion -- albeit one of the great mysteries of life.

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Yes, I already replied to this post. If you see my reply below yours just ignore that. Thanks.

BrianHG:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on January 25, 2023, 10:03:52 pm ---Yes, I already replied to this post. If you see my reply below yours just ignore that. Thanks.

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:-DD Don't waste your time on this...

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